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JXRPosts: 57
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#32
Well, that's understandable. That's what this is all about. Obviously, antiX does not load what is necessary (drivers?) for the card to be 'in the system'.
What I can 'see' is that the card is inserted, that it is getting power (lit) AND
- that on this computer with the current dual boot (antiX/XP) that the card delivers WiFi connection when booted into XP, and
- that on this computer with the previous dual boot (Ubuntu/XP) that the card delivered WiFi connection when booted into either Ubuntu or XP.
Could it be that also plugging the computer directly into the router (ethernet) somehow interferes with the terminal/website responses?
What I can 'see' is that the card is inserted, that it is getting power (lit) AND
- that on this computer with the current dual boot (antiX/XP) that the card delivers WiFi connection when booted into XP, and
- that on this computer with the previous dual boot (Ubuntu/XP) that the card delivered WiFi connection when booted into either Ubuntu or XP.
Could it be that also plugging the computer directly into the router (ethernet) somehow interferes with the terminal/website responses?
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JXRPosts: 57
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#33
I’m confused. I’ve executed the requested terminal commands (lspci -knn and lspci -n to
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linktext was:"http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx"
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) designed to generate a profile of what’s running on my computer in order to get the information needed to correct a problem (a WiFi card/connection that is not happening) and now someone is telling me that “The WiFi - Belkin card is not present in the system.”
I can understand that maybe my problem isn’t worth solving. Maybe old Dell/Belkin products just aren’t worth spending the time on.
But I wonder if this thread might have uncovered more interesting problems:
- Maybe the terminal command isn’t all it’s made up to be.
- Maybe the kmuto... website doesn’t have the information necessary to generate a complete profile.
- Maybe the card’s configuration manages to elude the terminal request. (which seems a valuable thing to know how to do)
But what I’m sensing now (correct me if I’m wrong) is that I’m being told the card I say (and know) is in my computer and is operational is not really there and/or is not operational.
The other thing that surprises me is that a problem one linux system antiX) is having that another linux system (Ubuntu) doesn’t have (the situation goes both ways. antiX recognizes the Inspiron 2650 keyboard whereas Ubuntu doesn’t) wouldn’t make it easier to solve the problem. Although there are many flavors of linux out there I thought one of the strengths of the community was that there was a lot of crosstalk between systems. It seems just a little between Ubuntu and antiX would solve both (WiFi and keyboard) problems--a win-win for each.
Is there anything more that can be done to address this problem?
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linktext was:"http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx"
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) designed to generate a profile of what’s running on my computer in order to get the information needed to correct a problem (a WiFi card/connection that is not happening) and now someone is telling me that “The WiFi - Belkin card is not present in the system.”
I can understand that maybe my problem isn’t worth solving. Maybe old Dell/Belkin products just aren’t worth spending the time on.
But I wonder if this thread might have uncovered more interesting problems:
- Maybe the terminal command isn’t all it’s made up to be.
- Maybe the kmuto... website doesn’t have the information necessary to generate a complete profile.
- Maybe the card’s configuration manages to elude the terminal request. (which seems a valuable thing to know how to do)
But what I’m sensing now (correct me if I’m wrong) is that I’m being told the card I say (and know) is in my computer and is operational is not really there and/or is not operational.
The other thing that surprises me is that a problem one linux system antiX) is having that another linux system (Ubuntu) doesn’t have (the situation goes both ways. antiX recognizes the Inspiron 2650 keyboard whereas Ubuntu doesn’t) wouldn’t make it easier to solve the problem. Although there are many flavors of linux out there I thought one of the strengths of the community was that there was a lot of crosstalk between systems. It seems just a little between Ubuntu and antiX would solve both (WiFi and keyboard) problems--a win-win for each.
Is there anything more that can be done to address this problem?
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rokytnjiPosts: 4,164
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#34
Ok. try
and also
If your Belkin card does not show after this. I give up.
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#35
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su -c"hwinfo --netcard"
21: PCI 201.0: 0200 Ethernet controller
[Created at pci.318]
UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10b7_9200
Unique ID: rBUF.oOfgbdRycVB
Parent ID: 6NW+.Wc+DHj8LOy0
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:02:01.0
SysFS BusID: 0000:02:01.0
Hardware Class: network
Model:"3Com 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]"
Vendor: pci 0x10b7"3Com Corporation"
Device: pci 0x9200"3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]"
SubVendor: pci 0x1028"Dell"
SubDevice: pci 0x00f3
Revision: 0x78
Driver:"3c59x"
Driver Modules:"3c59x"
Device File: eth0
I/O Ports: 0x3000-0x3fff (rw)
Memory Range: 0xe8000000-0xe800007f (rw,non-prefetchable)
Memory Range: 0x14000000-0x1401ffff (ro,non-prefetchable,disabled)
IRQ: 10 (96359 events)
HW Address: 00:08:74:e2:88:62
Link detected: yes
Module Alias:"pci:v000010B7d00009200sv00001028sd000000F3bc02sc00i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: 3c59x is active
Driver Activation Cmd:"modprobe 3c59x"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
Attached to: #14 (PCI bridge)
32: PCMCIA 00.0: 0282 WLAN controller
[Created at pcmcia.84]
UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pcmcia__1__1
Unique ID: YDUp.3ScCg_Fdtr9
Parent ID: UVH2.ubsnuqKH133
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:02:04.0/0.0
SysFS BusID: 0.0
Hardware Class: network
Model:"Belkin 11Mbps-Wireless-Notebook-Network-Adapter"
Hotplug: CardBus
Socket: 0
Vendor: pcmcia 0x01bf"Belkin"
Device: pcmcia 0x3302"11Mbps-Wireless-Notebook-Network-Adapter"
Driver:"atmel_cs"
Driver Modules:"atmel_cs"
Device File: eth1
Features: WLAN
HW Address: 00:30:bd:d1:89:fc
Link detected: no
WLAN channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
WLAN frequencies: 2.412 2.417 2.422 2.427 2.432 2.437 2.442 2.447 2.452 2.457 2.462
WLAN bitrates: 1 2 5.5 11
WLAN encryption modes: WEP40 WEP104
WLAN authentication modes: open sharedkey
Module Alias:"pcmcia:m01BFc3302f06fn00pfn00pa3805A391pb04D6F391pc00000000pd00000000"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: atmel_cs is active
Driver Activation Cmd:"modprobe atmel_cs"
Extra Info: Belkin, 11Mbps-Wireless-Notebook-Network-Adapter
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
Attached to: #22 (CardBus bridge)-
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#36
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su -c"hwinfo --wlan"
14: PCMCIA 00.0: 0282 WLAN controller
[Created at pcmcia.84]
UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pcmcia__1__1
Unique ID: YDUp.3ScCg_Fdtr9
Parent ID: UVH2.ubsnuqKH133
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:02:04.0/0.0
SysFS BusID: 0.0
Hardware Class: network
Model:"Belkin 11Mbps-Wireless-Notebook-Network-Adapter"
Hotplug: CardBus
Socket: 0
Vendor: pcmcia 0x01bf"Belkin"
Device: pcmcia 0x3302"11Mbps-Wireless-Notebook-Network-Adapter"
Driver:"atmel_cs"
Driver Modules:"atmel_cs"
Device File: eth1
Features: WLAN
HW Address: 00:30:bd:d1:89:fc
Link detected: no
WLAN channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
WLAN frequencies: 2.412 2.417 2.422 2.427 2.432 2.437 2.442 2.447 2.452 2.457 2.462
WLAN bitrates: 1 2 5.5 11
WLAN encryption modes: WEP40 WEP104
WLAN authentication modes: open sharedkey
Module Alias:"pcmcia:m01BFc3302f06fn00pfn00pa3805A391pb04D6F391pc00000000pd00000000"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: atmel_cs is active
Driver Activation Cmd:"modprobe atmel_cs"
Extra Info: Belkin, 11Mbps-Wireless-Notebook-Network-Adapter
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
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rokytnjiPosts: 4,164
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#37
Holy Cow Batman. Or down south we say,"Well, Alrighty then".
So on Your box atmel should be installed also. Have you tried typing in eth1 into wicd>wireless preferences and hitting the refresh button?
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Vendor: pcmcia 0x01bf"Belkin"
Device: pcmcia 0x3302"11Mbps-Wireless-Notebook-Network-Adapter"
Driver:"atmel_cs"
Driver Modules:"atmel_cs"
Device File: eth1
Driver Status: atmel_cs is active
Driver Activation Cmd:"modprobe atmel_cs"[code]
on my box
[code]:~$ apt-cache show atmel-firmware
Package: atmel-firmware
Version: 1.3-4
Installed-Size: 860
Maintainer: Simon Kelley <simon@thekelleys.org.uk>
Architecture: all
Suggests: wireless-tools
Conflicts: atmelwlandriver-tools
Description-en: Firmware for Atmel at76c50x wireless networking chips.
The drivers for these chips in the Linux 2.6.x kernel do not include
the firmware; this firmware needs to be loaded by the host on most
cards using these chips. This package provides the firmware images
which should be automatically loaded as needed by the hotplug
system. It also provides a small loader utility which can be used to
accomplish the same thing when hotplug is not in use.
Description-md5: 9ebc545ff4fb8aff2093d26a803a820a
Tag: admin::hardware, role::data, use::driver, use::transmission
Section: non-free/kernel
Priority: optional
Filename: pool/non-free/a/atmel-firmware/atmel-firmware_1.3-4_all.deb
Size: 467450
MD5sum: b174efacdc1162e4721478e1ed2f6de3
SHA1: 36641678f3247a771305a38696f2989780c94573
SHA256: 1263db7dd3b55dbd02c5f239d8362e4193ee36e3580db02bd938dac59c1a4ed3
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rokytnjiPosts: 4,164
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#38
Oops, Forgot to show installed command
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$ apt-cache policy atmel-firmware
atmel-firmware:
Installed: 1.3-4
Candidate: 1.3-4
Version table:
*** 1.3-4 0
500 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/non-free i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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JXRPosts: 57
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#39
apt-cache policy atmel-firmware
atmel-firmware:
Installed: 1.3-4
Candidate: 1.3-4
Version table:
*** 1.3-4 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
atmel-firmware:
Installed: 1.3-4
Candidate: 1.3-4
Version table:
*** 1.3-4 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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JXRPosts: 57
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#40
I Rebooted (disconnecting the wired interface [ethernet cable] so that that wouldn't factor into things)...
executed wicd-gtk which returned
Loading...
Connecting to daemon...
Connected.
displaytray True
Done loading.
Then checked out the connection icon to find out there was no connection.
So I went into Wicd Preferences/General Settings:
unchecked Always show wired interface and Always switch to a wired connection...
and
Yes the Wired interface: is set to eth1
OK/Refresh..."No wireless networks found" (it should find my LinkSys router)
executed wicd-gtk which returned
Loading...
Connecting to daemon...
Connected.
displaytray True
Done loading.
Then checked out the connection icon to find out there was no connection.
So I went into Wicd Preferences/General Settings:
unchecked Always show wired interface and Always switch to a wired connection...
and
Yes the Wired interface: is set to eth1
OK/Refresh..."No wireless networks found" (it should find my LinkSys router)
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#41
Oops, slight typo in last post
In Preferences/General Settings
Wireless interface: is set to eth1
(Wired interface is not set to anything)
Should I check anything under Oreferebces/Advanced Settings (WPA Supplicant; Backend; Debugging; Wireless Interface)
In Preferences/General Settings
Wireless interface: is set to eth1
(Wired interface is not set to anything)
Should I check anything under Oreferebces/Advanced Settings (WPA Supplicant; Backend; Debugging; Wireless Interface)
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rokytnjiPosts: 4,164
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#42
WPA Supplicant; is only used for me when my router uses wpa2 encrypted wireless signal with a passkey.
If you run a open network. Just hit the refresh button in wicd after typing in eth1 into wireless interface and your router
should show. If wpa or wep. You can used the advanced settings then which is under properties button next to your router in wicd window.
If you run a open network. Just hit the refresh button in wicd after typing in eth1 into wireless interface and your router
should show. If wpa or wep. You can used the advanced settings then which is under properties button next to your router in wicd window.
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rokytnjiPosts: 4,164
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#43
on Mine.
preferences>general settings
1. wireless interface wlan0 , yours should be eth1
2. wired interface eth0 (ifconfig -a as root in terminal should show wired interface for you to enter into that box with hardline plugged in)
external programs
1. dhcp , mines on auto
2. wired link detection, mines on automatic(recommended)
3. route table, mines on auto
4. graphical sudo application, mines on automatic (recommended)
Advanced settings
1. driver, mines on wext
2. Backend, mines on external
3. Debugging box is not checked on mine
4. Wireless interface , mine is set on ping (you can use db also because on some of my other laptops that is what I use instead)
On mine on the properties button next to where my router is shown. Since I use wpa2 encryption. I have use encryption box checked. Then I type in my password which sticks on reboots after closing properties. I also have automatically connect to this network box checked since this is my motorcycle shop deskstop which does not move about.
preferences>general settings
1. wireless interface wlan0 , yours should be eth1
2. wired interface eth0 (ifconfig -a as root in terminal should show wired interface for you to enter into that box with hardline plugged in)
external programs
1. dhcp , mines on auto
2. wired link detection, mines on automatic(recommended)
3. route table, mines on auto
4. graphical sudo application, mines on automatic (recommended)
Advanced settings
1. driver, mines on wext
2. Backend, mines on external
3. Debugging box is not checked on mine
4. Wireless interface , mine is set on ping (you can use db also because on some of my other laptops that is what I use instead)
On mine on the properties button next to where my router is shown. Since I use wpa2 encryption. I have use encryption box checked. Then I type in my password which sticks on reboots after closing properties. I also have automatically connect to this network box checked since this is my motorcycle shop deskstop which does not move about.
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JXRPosts: 57
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#44
Since I use no wireless protection neither wpa or wep.
The Wicd Network Manager apparently remembers that the Wireless Interface should be set to eth1. However I made sure to reset it (even going so far as to set it to eth and then retype eth1, each time refreshing) but it still reports"No wireless networks found."
Arguuh
(Since this is a smalltime computer I hoped to use it as my in the car and about town goto machine able to access wireless at the local library or restaurant so that I can catch a quick download or two.) Guess this wireless issue is an AntiX achilles heel.
The Wicd Network Manager apparently remembers that the Wireless Interface should be set to eth1. However I made sure to reset it (even going so far as to set it to eth and then retype eth1, each time refreshing) but it still reports"No wireless networks found."
Arguuh
(Since this is a smalltime computer I hoped to use it as my in the car and about town goto machine able to access wireless at the local library or restaurant so that I can catch a quick download or two.) Guess this wireless issue is an AntiX achilles heel.
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JXRPosts: 57
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#45
We tried the Wicd"eth1" idea way back when in this post.
Did any other ideas come as a result of the Holy Cow Batman. Or down south we say,"Well, Alrighty then" information?
Did any other ideas come as a result of the Holy Cow Batman. Or down south we say,"Well, Alrighty then" information?