Suggestions, requests, bug fixes for next release.

anticapitalista · 23 Sep 2011, 16:46 #1 2011-09-23 16:46

Next release of antiX coming fairly soon.

Make your suggestions and also list known issues.

I'll start the ball rolling.

jwm will be included, hopefully with translated menu structure like with fluxbox and icewm.
Known issues with mounting ntfs partitions as user. (anyone know a sure fix?)

Dave · posted: 2011-09-23 17:10

I would still hope to get the new wallpaper app into this next release, as far as I know it is ready to be included. A manual install from a tarball would be fairly easy, but installing all the changes to the various configs via a deb is where I am stuck. I hope to have this figured out. Also if you could include the antix repo, commented out or included. This would make it a little easier to implement at that moment, or in the future.

Hannes Worst · posted: 2011-09-23 18:21

I don't know if this is the kind of feedback you can work with, but iceape still has an issue with Hotmail and Yahoo accounts. The solution is to install the seamonkey add-on 'general-useragent-switcher'. But this solution is perhaps unknown for the greater public. I don't know if this problem also exists in iceweasel.

DeepDayze · posted: 2011-09-23 18:44

Getting USB automounting upon insertion working properly as it hasn't worked at all for me.

Dave · posted: 2011-09-24 01:36

Not a problem with iceweasel hannes

rokytnji · posted: 2011-09-24 02:18

Known issues with mounting ntfs partitions as user. (anyone know a sure fix?)

My only Windows Box is this IBM T23 I use for tuning Bikes Anti. I run 8.5 on it still with rox,thunar,and pacmanfm on it with fluxbox only.

My Windows (and Puppy 520 Install) mount as user in all file managers. My
/etc/fstab is as follows

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# Pluggable devices are handled by uDev, they are not in fstab
/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults,noatime 1 1
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0622 0 0
/dev/hda5 /home auto defaults,noatime 1 2
#/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,user,users,owner,rw,noatime 0 0
/dev/hda8 /mnt/fat32 vfat auto,users,rw,owner,umask=000 0 0
/dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4 ext4 auto,users,rw,noatime 0 0
# Dynamic entries below
/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs-3g auto,user,users,gid=users,dmask=002,fmask=113,relatime 0 0
/dev/hda3 swap swap sw,pri=1 0 0
/dev/hda7 /mnt/hda7 ext3 auto,users,rw,relatime 0 0
/dev/cdrom /media/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,users,exec,ro 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,users,exec,ro 0 0

OOps. forgot fdisk -l

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root@biker:/home/harry# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders, total 156301488 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xfa4827d6

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1              63    31889024    15944481    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/hda2        31889025   123475589    45793282+   5  Extended
/dev/hda3       154256130   156301311     1022591   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda4       123475968   154255359    15389696   83  Linux
/dev/hda5       101338020   123475589    11068785   83  Linux
/dev/hda6        86945792   101337087     7195648   83  Linux
/dev/hda7        31889151    60911615    14511232+  83  Linux
/dev/hda8        60913664    86943743    13015040    b  W95 FAT32

Partition table entries are not in disk order

SamK · posted: 2011-09-24 11:04

anticapitalista wrote:Make your suggestions and also list known issues.

USB Mount/Unmount not Authorized
See post #2 potential-ways-of-addressing-usb-not-authorized-issue-t3304.html

Safely Unplug a USB Drive
a-script-to-unmount-removable-drives-t3294.html

A Lighterweight Terminal/Console MP3 Player
console-terminal-mp3-player-for-antix-t3342.html

anticapitalista wrote:Known issues with mounting ntfs partitions as user. (anyone know a sure fix?)

I must have missed this one. I currently only use antiX-M11 in conjunction with NTFS partitions on external (USB) drives. This works without a problem as an unprivileged user. Longer term I will want to run an internal hard disk having both extX and NTFS file systems. Is this where the problem is found? I have not tested this yet.

Can someone point to the relevant posts in the forum or better still, succinctly describe what is wanted as an outcome.

SamK · posted: 2011-09-25 10:08

How about something like this to compliment Dave's wallpaper switcher:

========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7c760YbgrE4/S5krzM7NYmI/AAAAAAAADsY/F8uI4NJR0Cw/s1600-h/cli_commands-1400x900.png"
linktext was:"http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7c760YbgrE4/S ... 00x900.png"
====================================

If desired, someone might offer to modify it to include antiX specific commands.

Cuttlefish · posted: 2011-09-25 11:28

Will legacy Grub be the default?

anticapitalista · posted: 2011-09-25 12:48

Cuttlefish wrote:Will legacy Grub be the default?

Yes.

Thanks for the input so far, keep them coming.

SamK · posted: 2011-09-25 15:44

anticapitalista wrote:...keep them coming.

I suggest e3 a console text editor be considered. It is in the repo.

It is a micro single file binary editor (no dependencies) that emulates the users choice of key-bindings:

EMACS
Nedit (personal preference as the keys strokes are very similar to many common GUI editors)
Pico (same as nano which is based on pico)
vi
Wordstar

It is a good choice when storage space is at a premium. For me, however, the main benefit is that when at the console or terminal I do not have to remember unfamiliar key combinations to carry out simple editing tasks.

I start it in IceWM as follows:

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prog"Text Editor - E3" /usr/share/icons/gTangish-2.0a1/48x48/apps/accessories-text-editor.png roxterm --maximize --hide-menubar --title=E3 --execute e3ne

Note: This is on a single line.

buttcoffee · posted: 2011-09-25 18:25

Maybe include emelfm2 as file manager. It's about as lightweight as rox
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://emelfm2.net/"
linktext was:"http://emelfm2.net/"
====================================

I'm assuming you'll be using a different kernel?

SamK · posted: 2011-09-26 11:15

SamK wrote:
anticapitalista wrote:Known issues with mounting ntfs partitions as user. (anyone know a sure fix?)
...
Can someone point to the relevant posts in the forum or better still, succinctly describe what is wanted as an outcome.

As no one has offered any further information on this the following three scenarios of mounting/unmounting NTFS may be wide of the required goal.

SCENARIO 1 - NTFS on External Storage
A method is described in these posts:
a-script-to-unmount-removable-drives-t3294.html
potential-ways-of-addressing-usb-not-authorized-issue-t3304.html

In a multi-user environment, security of information in the NTFS file system is maintained by not giving or lending the physical device to an untrusted user.

SCENARIO 2 - NTFS on Internal Storage Mounted Permanently
Prompted by the previous post by rokytnji, a small test partition formatted as NTFS was created on an internal disk. An entry was added to /etc/fstab as follows:

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# Pluggable devices are handled by uDev, they are not in fstab
/dev/sda1 / ext4 defaults,noatime 1 1
/dev/sda6 /mnt/test-ntfs ntfs defaults,users,rw,noatime 0 0
...

Note: of course this required root privileges.

Following a reboot directories and files were created as an unprivileged user.

In a multi-user environment, security of information in the NTFS file system is maintained as the system administrator decides whether or not to add the entry in /etc/fstab.

SCENARIO 3 - NTFS on Internal Storage Mounted on-the-fly
This method has been removed by SamK. It was reported incorrectly as working as a result of faulty testing.

Edit SamK:
Remove incorrectly reported method.

dolphin_oracle · posted: 2011-09-26 13:27

Due to me always having permissions problems with NTFS, I've maintained a FAT partition for any data I share between windows and linux installs. To me, anything related to user access of partitions, be it internal or external NTFS, or USB connected drives, should be a priority.

To me, external drives (especially hot plugged drives), should be fully useable without going root by the user that plugged in the drive. NTFS might be more sticky from a security standpoint, and honestly, from a technical standpoint as third-party access through ntfs-3g to NTFS drives has always made me nervous, but in this day and age its necessary.

masinick · posted: 2011-09-28 18:39

Anti, I am sorry that I did not find this sooner - either in MEPIS or in antiX, but the sound and everything else work perfectly on my Gateway 2000 Series Model PA6A 17" portable. On my 15" Lenovo 3000 Series Y410 laptop, MEPIS and antiX both install nicely, but something I hadn't looked closely enough at is that the sound doesn't work at all on this platform. I'll have to get you the specs with inxi -F on it later; remind me if I forget.

What helped me eventually find this was running Jason Hsu's creative Swift Linux. I tried a few of his different builds, and none of them would do sound on the Lenovo, yet they worked perfectly on the Gateway. So I went back with antiX, then with MEPIS, and found it to be an issue with both systems. It probably goes back somehow to the MEPIS kernel and its interaction with the hardware, but I'm not sure of that; I run antiX mostly on the Gateway and have not experimented much on the Lenovo, but one way to know is that I have an antiX core out there with a Damentz' Liquorix kernel. I'll have to check sound. If it works, then chances are it's the kernel that is responsible for the lack of sound. Maybe there is a work around, but it hasn't worked yet for me.

I like the expansion of window manager choices - at least in the"full edition". Hope that the artists can apply some of the same great magic they have given us in Fluxbox and IceWM and apply it to JWM as well.

As for me, in my own endeavors, I've now put together two really outstanding antiX core systems, both using Sid, one on the Gateway and one on the Lenovo. Both are awesome. I just revamped my original prototype antiX core image on the Gateway and completely replaced it with a new one, using the M11.0 core installer, which is so much easier to work with than the original prototype; fantastic progress made over the past year and a half on that!

I am going to have to keep a closer eye out here, since work is underway. I definitely want to review every build, and hopefully I won't let anything get past me this time around! Keep up the great work!