topic title: antiX-16-b1-full available for testing
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chrispop99
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
#46
Sorry, not sure what 'Use"db+" cheat' means.

Chris
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SamK
Joined: 21 Aug 2011
#47
antiX-16b1 only partially working OOTB

inxi -Fxz -c0

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System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.3) Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-16-b1_386-full Berta Cáceres 11 April 2016
Machine:   System: Dell product: MXC051
           Mobo: Dell model: 0HC416 Bios: Dell v: A02 date: 11/06/2005
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2) bmips: 3458 speed: 1733 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x800@60.04hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX driver: b44 v: 2.0 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection
           driver: ipw2200 v: 1.2.2kmprq bus-ID: 02:03.0
           IF: eth0 state: unknown mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 67.8GB (1.8% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HTS54106 size: 60.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: DataTraveler_G3 size: 7.8GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 579M used: 3.3M (1%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 24.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 118 Uptime: 7 min Memory: 106.5/741.7MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.2.31
Audio working

Wired networking not working OOTB. Works after set up via Ceni or WICD.

Conky does not display network monitors after network set up

Mouse invisible at start up
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SamK
Joined: 21 Aug 2011
#48
Calculator

Calculator seems to be in an odd location in the menu within Education.
A more obvious location is Accessories.
As it one of our creation, changing the location should be easy.
Additionally the .desktop file is probably better located in .../applications/antix/
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SamK
Joined: 21 Aug 2011
#49
qpdfview

qpdfview seems quite heavy at approx 22MiB RAM when not showing a pdf document, compared to e.g. epdfviewer which weighs in at approx 6MiB when not showing a pdf document. Reported by ps_mem.py. Being lightweight and nimble is not only a matter of the resources used by antiX in a quiescent state once booted, but also using lightweight apps during a session.
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SamK
Joined: 21 Aug 2011
#50
Meta Package Installer

Is this primarily aimed at use within antiX-Full or antiX-Full+antiX-Base?
Currently it seems a bit of an odd mishmash.
anticapitalista
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Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#51
SamK wrote:qpdfview

qpdfview seems quite heavy at approx 22MiB RAM when not showing a pdf document, compared to e.g. epdfviewer which weighs in at approx 6MiB when not showing a pdf document. Reported by ps_mem.py. Being lightweight and nimble is not only a matter of the resources used by antiX in a quiescent state once booted, but also using lightweight apps during a session.
epdfview is not in debian/jessie (or any later versions of debian) There is no epdfviewer at all in debian.

evince-gtk pulls in lots of dependencies but does seem to be lighter than qpdfview.
anticapitalista
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#52
SamK wrote:Meta Package Installer

Is this primarily aimed at use within antiX-Full or antiX-Full+antiX-Base?
Currently it seems a bit of an odd mishmash.
it is for both.
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#53
samk's network monitors don't appear with wireless connection because his wireless shows up as eth0.

same for wicd (assumes wlan0 in preferences).


edit...


looking at conky, samK's wireless at eth0 should show up in conky once connected. but his wired network (eth1) never will.
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SamK
Joined: 21 Aug 2011
#54
Re: qpdfview
anticapitalista wrote:epdfview is not in debian/jessie (or any later versions of debian) There is no epdfviewer at all in debian.

evince-gtk pulls in lots of dependencies but does seem to be lighter than qpdfview.
Perhaps I was not as clear as I intended. I used that package as an example because IIRC it was installed in 13.2. I did not mean we should include it, I was trying to make a wider point about keeping the apps lightweight when there is one which is acceptable.
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#55
anticapitalista wrote:Request to test out the following.

1. Test save_state on fat32 usb stick running live.

Just make a fat32 liveUSB. Use"db+" cheat so you can catch error
messages on shutdown. See if there are extraneous error messages
associated with saving state at shutdown or start up. Boot it
twice to be sure. Some may only show up on first or second boot.

Should savestate be less chatty by default?
On the system I tested with, the only thing savestate grapped was asound state. That said, I don't mind the output of those messages at all. IIRC, there will also be output for etc/network/interfaces and wicd configs.

If you want to make it less chatty, echoing out"saving system state" seems OK to me.
2. Test UEFI chainload to Windows

If you boot Live via UEFI, does the"Windows" boot entry show
up? If so, does it work?

Does NOT show on the family media pc when booting live UEFI. (64 bit iso) (inxi below). (esp on /dev/sda2)

DOES show on the lenovo s21e (esp on /dev/mmcblk0p1). the entry DOES work.

inxi for family pc

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┌─[demo@antix1]─[06:54:31 am]────────────────────────────────────────────────[~]
└─> inxi -F
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.2-antix.2-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-16-b1_x64-full Berta Cáceres 11 April 2016
Machine:   Mobo: MSI model: A88XM GAMING (MS-7903) v: 1.0
           Bios: American Megatrends v: V1.5 date: 04/20/2015
CPU:       Quad core AMD A10-7870K Radeon R7 12 Compute Cores 4C+8G (-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 3900 MHz 1: 2400 MHz 2: 2400 MHz 3: 1700 MHz
           4: 2400 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics]
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Oland XT [Radeon HD 8670 / R7 250]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@59.81hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD OLAND GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri HDMI/DP Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-3 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Cape Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7700/7800 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: ALSA v: k4.4.2-antix.2-amd64-smp
Network:   Card: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E220x Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: alx
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: d8:cb:8a:e0:75:d4
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2254.5GB (0.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD20EARX size: 2000.4GB
           ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: Cruzer_Glide size: 4.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 5.5G used: 1.2M (1%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 5.8C mobo: N/A gpu: 5.0,26.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 191 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 219.3/7000.0MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.31
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SamK
Joined: 21 Aug 2011
#56
dolphin_oracle wrote:looking at conky, samK's wireless at eth0 should show up in conky once connected. but his wired network (eth1) never will.
The fix is to include the following between the eth0 and wlan0 sections in ~/.conkyrc.

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${if_up eth1}${color}eth1 up: $alignr${color3} ${upspeed eth1}
${color}$alignr${upspeedgraph   eth1 30,170 5599cc 5599cc}
${color}eth1 down: $alignr${color3} ${downspeed eth1}
${color2}$alignr${downspeedgraph eth1 30,170  5599cc 5599cc}${endif}
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masinick
Joined: 26 Apr 2008
#57
darry1966 wrote:
rokytnji wrote:
My opinion is we strike a comfy balance between a cfdisk cli installer and a vaudeville showy installer.
I expect others to disagree. But the less resources the installer uses. The more resources go to the actual install process.
Too true Roky - love the installer.
Add me to the"camp" that generally prefers modest resource use. We have a reasonable blend between simplicity, ease of extending, maybe not optimal for the absolute novice, but that's not really our top focus group - those that need efficient resource utilization probably are on the top of the priority list - is that a reasonable assumption? What we have now is very reasonable, and works quite well. The more we add, the more difficult it becomes to make every piece work correctly.

The only thing I'd really love to see us configure automatically are the settings for our various wireless interface front ends. The configuration tools gather the necessary information. It'd be really nice to insert that gathered information into the configuration of each interface tool - but that's a"wish list" item on my part.
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SamK
Joined: 21 Aug 2011
#58
SiS Video Driver Discrepancy

Running live the SiS video driver is used and a good resolution obtained

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System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.3)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-16-b1_386-full Berta Cáceres 11 April 2016
Machine:   System: Acer product: AcerPower Sd
           Mobo: Acer model: J86M Bios: Award v: 6.00 PG date: 03/25/2003
CPU:       Single core Intel Celeron (-UP-) cache: 128 KB
           flags: (pae sse sse2) bmips: 5178 speed: 2589 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
           bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: N/A
           Resolution: 1280x1024@75.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC'97 Sound Controller
           driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: d000 d400 bus-ID: 00:02.7
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp
Network:   Card: Sundance / IC Plus IP1000 Family Gigabit Ethernet
           driver: dl2k port: d800 bus-ID: 00:07.0
           IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 47.8GB (12.4% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD400EB size: 40.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: DataTraveler_G3 size: 7.8GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 776M used: 1.9M (1%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.17GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 115 Uptime: 5 min Memory: 87.7/987.4MB
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.2.31
Conventional installation to disk uses fbdev and a very poor resolution is obtained that cannot be changed via arandr
The SiS video driver is not being implemented during installation

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[...]
Graphics:  Card: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
           bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: fbdev (unloaded: vesa)
           Resolution: 800x600@0.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
[...]
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#59
samK, do either the live or installed on the sis graphics system have a etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and if so, please post.
anticapitalista
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#60
SamK - the new installer should fix this. The present one removes any xorg.conf that was set up during live use.
Could you test running live, before installing, add dev to the antix.list

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# Use with Debian Stable/Jessie repositories. Set as default for antiX-16.
deb http://antix.daveserver.info/jessie jessie main nosystemd [b]dev[/b]
# Use with Debian Testing (or Sid) repositories. 
#deb http://antix.daveserver.info/testing testing main nosystemd
run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade (or simply use synaptic to install the latest antix-installer).
Then see if sis graphics is working on new install.

Thanks