topic title: antiX-15-RC1.1 available
Posts: 4,164
rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#31
Please try xorg=savage and see if that works for you. It should cause the X server to try to use the savage driver.
Like Chris's machine. My screen started to load. Got to a mouse pointer on a black screen. Then mouse froze up solid.
I did not wait long to see if screen would finish loading. I have seen this behavior before in the early alphas with
me and you.

So I figured the cpu was being being beat up on like before. So just did a hard shutdown.
I still have to feed the dogs and do some other chores BitJam.

I will be back later after I do the hard drive swap and install. Vesa looks like the way to go with these these
Savage chip laptops till Xorg and Savage get their act together, so to speak.

I wish I had a Via graphics chip unit to test on. I have been helping other Linux users else-where on Ubuntu
based distros with Using Vesa on their Via boxes. Everything on theirs is fine till they start browsing.

Then the screen goes all white and they have to do a hard shutdown. Hopefully a member at Mepis Forum or here
has a Via graphics chip box they could run a live test run on.
Posts: 452
Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#32
Hopefully a member at Mepis Forum or here has a Via graphics chip box they could run a live test run on.
If you all need a specific test like that, a request on the open
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would be seen by all users. Any other specific hardware testing needs could of course be included, to make an umbrella post (made that up: does the phrase exist?).
Posts: 88
kmathern
Joined: 25 Aug 2012
#33
For the via savage gpu I think you might need to set the color depth to 16 bit in the xorg.conf.
Posts: 4,164
rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#34
Jerry wrote:
Hopefully a member at Mepis Forum or here has a Via graphics chip box they could run a live test run on.
If you all need a specific test like that, a request on the open
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would be seen by all users. Any other specific hardware testing needs could of course be included, to make an umbrella post (made that up: does the phrase exist?).
Started a thread @
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Thanks for the idea Jerry. __{{emoticon}}__
Posts: 4,164
rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#35
No show stoppers on installing on the IBM T23 Laptop. Later on will dial it in and report on hardware.

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riffraff@posersuk:~
$ sudo inxi -zv7

We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

    #1) Respect the privacy of others.
    #2) Think before you type.
    #3) With great power comes great responsibility.

[sudo] password for riffraff: 
System:    Host: posersuk Kernel: 4.0.5-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.2)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8 dm: slim
           Distro: antiX-15-rc1.1-V_386-full Killah P 20 June 2015
Machine:   Mobo: IBM model: 26474MU
           Bios: IBM v: 1AET64WW (1.20 ) date: 10/18/2006
CPU:       Single core Mobile Intel Pentium III - M (-UP-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (pae sse) bmips: 1598 speed/min/max: 800/800/1200 MHz
Memory:    Array-1 capacity: 1 GB (est) devices: 2 EC: None
           max module size: 512 MB
           Device-1: DIMM 1 size: 512 MB (Double-bank) speed: N/A
           type: SDRAM (Synchronous) bus width: 64 bits
           manufacturer: N/A part: N/A serial: N/A
           Device-2: DIMM 2 size: 512 MB (Double-bank) speed: N/A
           type: SDRAM (Synchronous) bus width: 64 bits
           manufacturer: N/A part: N/A serial: N/A
Graphics:  Card: S3 Graphics SuperSavage IX/C SDR
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 5333:8c2e
           Display Server: X.org 1.16.4 driver: vesa
           tty size: 80x28 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card Intel 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: 1c00 18c0 bus-ID: 00:1f.5 chip-ID: 8086:2485
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.0.5-antix.1-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller
           driver: e100 v: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI port: 6400
           bus-ID: 02:08.0 chip-ID: 8086:1031
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Ralink RT2800 802.11n PCI
           driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 1814:0601
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
           WAN IP: <filter> IF: eth0 ip: N/A ip-v6: N/A
           IF: wlan0 ip: <filter> ip-v6: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (5.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST980815A size: 80.0GB serial: 5LY3WEDN
           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4240N
           rev: 0213 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd
           Features: speed: 24x multisession: yes
           audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw state: running
Partition: ID-1: / size: 7.8G used: 2.4G (32%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           label: antiX15root uuid: 2a000d6f-c5d9-469d-b6fe-c898317d3a9f
           ID-2: /home size: 18G used: 46M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
           label: antiX15home uuid: 04e6706e-eb62-40ce-a0fe-c176bea48101
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
           label: N/A uuid: bf00fd58-e1c6-45cb-8846-dc65256c8790
RAID:      No RAID data: /proc/mdstat missing-is md_mod kernel module loaded?
Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/ram0 size: 0.02G label: N/A uuid: N/A
        <snip>
           ID-17: /dev/sda5 size: 49.96G
           fs: ext4 label: data uuid: 4fc4e37d-682d-485a-8c1e-a6b6fa4aec3a
           ID-18: /dev/fd0 size: 0.00G label: N/A uuid: N/A
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0C mobo: 43.0C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A fan-1: 0
Info:      Processes: 105 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 93.0/1004.9MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (sudo running in bash) inxi: 2.2.25 
riffraff@posersuk:~
$
Looks good so far.
Posts: 452
Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#36
rokytnji wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Hopefully a member at Mepis Forum or here has a Via graphics chip box they could run a live test run on.
If you all need a specific test like that, a request on the open
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url was:"http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewforum.php?f=118"
linktext was:"MX Testing forum"
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would be seen by all users. Any other specific hardware testing needs could of course be included, to make an umbrella post (made that up: does the phrase exist?).
Started a thread @
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Thanks for the idea Jerry. __{{emoticon}}__
Just hope something comes of it...
Posts: 1,445
skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#37
usability issues / sources of confusion:

spacefm: Because"root editor" is blank, when user launches spacefm via sudo... and clicks to open a TEXTfile,
winds up with a RoxTerm window and"some dang screen I don't even know how to exit out of" {vim}.
(seems like this detail falls through the cracks every build, I find/report, lather rinse repeat)

(asked previously, and was ignored) Why does a user account named"foo" exist?
Have I been hacked? Maybe it's a new backdoor installed by those RedHat plants inside debian? Should I hurry and delete that account?...

new user test-driving the live iso will (may) read F1 bootscreen help which states"pw demo=demo root=root"...
...then, during the session, at the gExec prompt"run ___ [ ] Run as root" will attempt to supply root password.
(nothing new here, and aside from possibly squeezing another line into bootscreen F1 help sudo pw = demo, I can't think of a"solution")

(known issue) PersonalMenu empty + fluxbox: WTF means"Retry" ?

(known issue) at bootscreen, user chooses"Root persist"... but during first-run, during persistence setup,
gets a msg stating"home persistence was requested but..."
(user wonders:"Did I choose the right bootscreen selection?)

(known issue) can select"no image, solid color" when desktop is fluxbox, but can't find that option if desktop is Rox+fluxbox

(expressing my chagrin toward the status quo"fix", er,"design decision"):
Without seeing/knowing what the current xset value for mouse acceleration is, how can user guess what value to fill in? What's the valid range, 0--999 ?
point: users would be better served by controlCenter providing the convenience opening the config file for editing, vs providing"a `fixed` but unhelpful" gui.
Posts: 1,445
skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#38
iso-snapshot
Tested & successfully created bootable ISOs (tested/compared xz versus gzip) and successfully tested persistence via the created snapshot.

Upon booting the created ISO, I noticed the following quirk logged during boot:
{snip}
LIVE-INIT: localizing/configuring X-windows
Error: Unknown_distro Linux
{snip}
The .conf file for iso-snapshot contains erroneous guidance regarding compression.
It confusingly states"outcomment the following line"
(the following line is not outcommented by default, nor do I believe it ever should be)
and it advises user to choose a string value"zx or gz"
("gz" fails. It must be"gzip"{noquotes})

suggestion: Based on my comparative xz/gzip tests, users would be better served if the .conf declared _gzip_ as the DEFAULT setting for compression.
If someone using this tool intends to boot from CD, and the snapshot ISO"won't fit"... no harm, just re-run the tool and choose the tighter compression.
For everyone else... under the status quo (default=xz) the unpacking will, per my testing, perennially delay each boot session by 6-8 seconds.
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Posts: 1,308
BitJam
Joined: 31 Aug 2009
#39
skidoo wrote:(known issue) at bootscreen, user chooses"Root persist"... but during first-run, during persistence setup,
gets a msg stating"home persistence was requested but..."
(user wonders:"Did I choose the right bootscreen selection?)
We've gone around on this before. But with the new F5-Persist menu we could add a"root-only" entry for you. You are also free to type in"persist=root!".
(asked previously, and was ignored) Why does a user account named"foo" exist?
Have I been hacked? Maybe it's a new backdoor installed by those RedHat plants inside debian? Should I hurry and delete that account?...
I don't see a"foo" account on the live system. Therefore ISTM something you did or installed created it.
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,955
Site Admin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#40
spacefm: - which TEXT file? All files open via leafpad here.

Why does a user account named"foo" exist? - It doesn't. Where are you seeing this?

PersonalMenu empty + fluxbox: WTF means"Retry" ? - ??????

(known issue) can select"no image, solid color" when desktop is fluxbox, but can't find that option if desktop is Rox+fluxbox - this has been mentioned several times. When using Rox pinboard/desktop, you cannot have just a solid colour. Unless anyone knows how.

(expressing my chagrin toward the status quo"fix", er,"design decision"):
Without seeing/knowing what the current xset value for mouse acceleration is, how can user guess what value to fill in? What's the valid range, 0--999 ?
point: users would be better served by controlCenter providing the convenience opening the config file for editing, vs providing"a `fixed` but unhelpful" gui. - Why didn't you suggest that in your earlier bug reports?
I'll probably remove the app since noone is willing to provide a good enough fix.
Posts: 1,445
skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#41
Wow, I'll recheck"foo" from a factory fresh session. (I thought I did so last night, and that's what prompted my remark).

"PersonalMenu empty + fluxbox: WTF means"Retry" ? - ??????"
Previously reported. Fluxbox menu displays"Retry", iceWM displays a glitchy empty flyout rectangle, JWM renders no flyout (the expected behavior)

"We've gone around on this before. But with the new F5-Persist menu we could add a"root-only" entry for you."
Not needed for me, thanks. I just (re)posted because it's a"from a new user's eyes" issue. Even after seeing it so many times during testing, to me it still seems odd.

"When using Rox pinboard/desktop, you cannot have just a solid colour. Unless anyone knows how."
Yep, I mentioned because it's a bullet point suitable for FAQ or Known Issues

"spacefm: - which TEXT file? All files open via leafpad here."
I'm stumped. I woulda sworn I was testing/reporting observations from a factory fresh session.
login=demo
gExec --} spacefm (as root) --} View--}Preferences
"root's editor" field is blank ...and clicking to open text files results in vim

edit: ^---- config for spacefm is loaded from /root path because (new, as of this release) gExec rootmode=su
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,955
Site Admin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#42
Re root spacefm.

You should open spacefm as user and edit any files with a Right-click - Open-Edit as root.
If any user wants to open spacefm as root, then they should set up their own default editor.

PersonalMenu is not empty. It had menu-manager in it.
Posts: 4,164
rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#43
Double checked and thought hard before posting this.

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riffraff@posersuk:~
$ inxi -f
CPU:       Single core Mobile Intel Pentium III - M (-UP-) cache: 512 KB
           speed: 1200 MHz (max)
           CPU Flags: cmov cx8 de fpu fxsr mca mce mmx msr mtrr pae pge pse
           pse36 sep sse tsc vme

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riffraff@posersuk:~
$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: S3 Graphics SuperSavage IX/C SDR
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: vesa
           Resolution: 1024x768@61.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2

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riffraff@posersuk:~
$ inxi -M
Machine:   Mobo: IBM model: 26474MU
           Bios: IBM v: 1AET64WW (1.20 ) date: 10/18/2006
Everything is working good so far . But. There is a But. I am only mentioning this because I expect threads from users with specs close to mine to mention their install has a bug in it.

I have some .mkv, .avi , and .mp4 movie files on file. It does not matter if I use
SMPlayer Youtube Browser, Mplayer, or Gnome Mplayer.

I open a video in any of those applications and my cpu runs high as can be. The top readouts I am going to show are with Browser closed. Just rox filer, terminal running top, and the mplayer playing star trek .mp4.

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riffraff@posersuk:~
$ top

top - 08:11:07 up 12 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.47, 0.37
Tasks:  99 total,   1 running,  98 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 5.9 us,  3.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 85.4 id,  0.7 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
KiB Mem:   1028984 total,   322432 used,   706552 free,    21960 buffers
KiB Swap:  2097148 total,        0 used,  2097148 free.   204984 cached Mem

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND      
 1719 root      20   0   98408  40392  15292 S  8.9  3.9   1:41.68 Xorg         
 4665 riffraff  20   0   39264  19196  16492 S  3.0  1.9   0:00.75 roxterm      
 2631 riffraff  20   0   63564   5912   4928 S  1.0  0.6   0:05.14 conky        
 4689 riffraff  20   0    5372   2564   2204 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.13 top 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^CPU low usage. No Mplayer yet. Just rox and top.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 riffraff@posersuk:~
$ top

top - 08:12:47 up 13 min,  4 users,  load average: 0.58, 0.49, 0.38
Tasks: 107 total,   2 running, 105 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 97.0 us,  3.0 sy,  0.0 ni,  0.0 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
KiB Mem:   1028984 total,   407772 used,   621212 free,    22500 buffers
KiB Swap:  2097148 total,        0 used,  2097148 free.   244416 cached Mem

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND      
 5067 riffraff  20   0  133916  60124  28720 R 88.2  5.8   0:08.97 mplayer      
 1719 root      20   0  108664  45140  20040 S  7.9  4.4   1:53.94 Xorg         
 4665 riffraff  20   0   40288  19416  16544 S  2.3  1.9   0:01.43 roxterm      
 2631 riffraff  20   0   63564   5916   4928 S  0.7  0.6   0:05.99 conky        
   50 root      20   0       0      0      0 S  0.3  0.0   0:00.35 kworker/u2:4 
 4689 riffraff  20   0    5372   2564   2204 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.54 top   
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^Star Trek .mp4 playing in mplayer^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
 riffraff@posersuk:~
$ top

top - 08:14:39 up 15 min,  4 users,  load average: 0.47, 0.54, 0.41
Tasks: 106 total,   2 running, 104 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 6.9 us,  4.3 sy,  0.0 ni, 82.1 id,  0.7 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
KiB Mem:   1028984 total,   387168 used,   641816 free,    22648 buffers
KiB Swap:  2097148 total,        0 used,  2097148 free.   254172 cached Mem

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND      
 1719 root      20   0  106088  42160  17060 S  9.9  4.1   2:08.95 Xorg         
 4665 riffraff  20   0   41552  19608  16672 S  3.6  1.9   0:02.59 roxterm      
 2039 root      20   0   27920  11076   5704 S  0.7  1.1   0:04.40 wicd         
 2631 riffraff  20   0   63564   5916   4928 S  0.7  0.6   0:06.87 conky        
 1818 message+  20   0    3872   2432   2120 S  0.3  0.2   0:01.46 dbus-daemon  
 2081 root      20   0   17404  11900   7612 S  0.3  1.2   0:01.86 wicd-monitor 
 4689 riffraff  20   0    5372   2564   2204 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.96 top  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Closed Mplayer. Just rox file manager and top running ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am not sure if this is a vesa glitch. Or this computer is so old now. Videos choke the cpu since it
is a P3. Youtube in browser has always choked the cpu on this unit. But before. Like in AntiX 13.
CPU would hammer on at 75% instead of a 100%, and movies on file were watchable.

All other things like switching desktops, setting up personal menu, antixcc is OK.
I suffer no crashes. This glitch is a weird one. So far I am of a mind to blame the age of the
computer. But. I might swap out drives again and load something else on the other drive.
Just to check. Windows XP is not a option in this bikers shop.

Like I mentioned. I double, triple checked all video applications. My viewing smplayer is like
the video is on heroin. I expect some posts to sound like mine later on. On legacy gear like mine with
savage graphics? I never checked my Sis box since it was only a live pendrive run. It is a P4 IBM
Desktop also. So maybe the symptom won't surface on that IBM computer.

Edit: Just visual info to show what I mean.

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trutyka
Joined: 25 Jun 2015
#44
Just wondering what should be the correct ownership (group) of the home directory after install?

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$ ls -la
total 264
drwxr-xr-x 35 arn  users  4096 Jun 25 14:01 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root   4096 Jun 25 09:31 ..
drwx------  3 arn  arn    4096 Jun 25 09:54 .adobe
-rw-------  1 arn  arn    1194 Jun 25 16:28 .bash_history
-rw-r--r--  1 arn  users   220 Nov 12  2014 .bash_logout
-rwxr-xr-x  1 arn  users  3851 Jun 20 15:43 .bashrc
drwxr-xr-x  2 arn  arn    4096 Jun 25 13:37 .bkgr
drwx------  6 arn  arn    4096 Jun 25 15:07 .cache
drwxr-xr-x 18 arn  users  4096 Jun 25 13:32 .config
-rw-r--r--  1 arn  users 11299 May 11 06:05 .conkyrc
drwxr-xr-x  9 arn  arn    4096 May  6 13:30 D1
drwx------  3 arn  arn    4096 Jun 25 09:32 .dbus
drwxr-xr-x  2 arn  arn    4096 Jun 25 09:32 Desktop
drwxr-xr-x  2 arn  users  4096 Jun 25 13:59 .desktop-session
drwxr-xr-x  2 arn  users  4096 Jun 25 13:52 .dillo
drwxr-xr-x  2 arn  arn    4096 Jun 25 09:32 Documents
drwxr-xr-x  2 arn  arn    4096 Jun 25 13:37 Downloads
-rw-r--r--  1 arn  users    42 Jun 25 14:00 .fehbg
drwx------  3 arn  arn    4096 Jun 25 10:11 .fltk
drwxr-xr-x  3 arn  users  4096 Jun 25 13:46 .fluxbox
drwxr-xr-x  2 arn  users  4096 Jun 20 15:37 .foxrc
drwxr-xr-x  3 arn  users  4096 Jun 25 13:50 .gconf
-rw-r--r--  1 arn  users    58 Dec  5  2009 .gexec
...
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BitJam
Joined: 31 Aug 2009
#45
Thanks truteyka! Good catch. It appears Debian has changed the default group for users and are now following what Gentoo did over a decade ago. I've fixed this in the live system so the group ownership should be consistent. It is possible we will also need to make a similar small change in the installer.