The dumb question of the week

rust collector · posted: 2012-01-31 13:16

I need some opinions, from the more experienced people.

I want my antix to have icewm, and no fluxbox.
Would it be better to install core, and add stuff, or install full, and remove fluxbox?
Is it really worth thinking about?? or am I just being awkward?

chrishall57 · posted: 2012-01-31 21:05

Why not just remove fluxbox from the options in the login window? Soon you'll forget that your system even has the fluxbox libraries on it!

rokytnji · posted: 2012-01-31 22:42

I did the opposite and kept fluxbox and ditched icewm in full iso 8.5 install. I just removed Icewm using synaptic package manager. Deleted ~/.icewm folder. Edited my ~/.xinitrc to start fluxbox only. That is how I did it.

Actually. Icewm and Fluxbox do not take up a lot of installed space to make a difference in uninstalling either one so chrishall57 suggestion is actually a very good one also. That way you have a fallback Window manager in case you need it. Choice is always good. Especially when the choice is weightless.

Is it really worth thinking about?? or am I just being awkward?

To me. You are being awkward, Just leave things be, if Icewm is default login in slim anyways. Don't remove the fluxbox options. You may need them down the road. Not enough bloat there to make any difference.

rust collector · posted: 2012-02-01 13:25

I guess you are right, it is not big enough to worry about.
Thanks! both of you!

dark-D · posted: 2012-02-01 16:32

if you want to save some space on antix, here are some tips post18498.html#p18498

rust collector · posted: 2012-02-01 17:03

Yes! Thanks!
It is not really that I have to save space, but I just don't like stuff I won't use, cluttering up my system, and"brain".
I have no idea how many times I have made some settings, and find out I made them in fluxbox, which I don't use.
Yep, I might have to read the little letters and stuff, when I mess with things, or get some glasses, maybe.

There are some things in your list of things to do that helps, without limiting my options later... Great!

Now, I have a new issue to figure out...

Kristian- gone searching...

rust collector · posted: 2012-02-04 02:14

heh, well....

I thought I would take a new look at fluxbox, so I put base on a stick...
Uuh, And now I can't connect to the internet, I tried wireless, and wired.
I tried ceni, and...rutilt.

Is there any way I can put wicd on the stick? My machine seems to like wicd, but have never had problems connecting with ceni either.

Any other ideas?

Edit
Ok, so now the wireless works...for some reason... __{{emoticon}}__ __{{emoticon}}__

rust collector · posted: 2012-02-05 00:42

Yep, I have messed something up again, but the thing still works.
For some reason, while booting, I get a: dhcpdiscover eth0.....blablablah.
A few seconds, and it tries again.After a few of those, it goes to try: dchpdiscover wlan0...blablah...

What makes that happen?
It works just fine, but it is annoying to have +20 seconds added to the boot time __{{emoticon}}__

I use wicd to connect, btw.

And an other thing... I installed the 3.2.2 kernel, and it works fine, as far as I know.
Now, how do I set grub to use that kernel as default?

Here you see my menu.lst:

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timeout 10
color cyan/blue white/blue
foreground ffffff
background 0639a1

gfxmenu /boot/grub/message

title antiX at sda1, kernel 2.6.36-1-mepis-smp
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.36-1-mepis-smp root=/dev/sda1 nomce quiet nosplash nouveau.modeset=0 vga=normal 
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.36-1-mepis-smp
boot

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=8085f4e1-5f09-4bc4-8035-1186544007dd ro
# kopt_2_6=root=UUID=8085f4e1-5f09-4bc4-8035-1186544007dd ro nosplash quiet nouveau.modeset=0

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,0)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##      alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##      lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
##      lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##      altoptions=(single-user) single
# altoptions=(init-3) 3

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##      howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##      memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title        Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 3.2.2-antix.2-486-smp
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.2-antix.2-486-smp root=UUID=8085f4e1-5f09-4bc4-8035-1186544007dd ro 
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-3.2.2-antix.2-486-smp

title        Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 3.2.2-antix.2-486-smp (init-3)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.2-antix.2-486-smp root=UUID=8085f4e1-5f09-4bc4-8035-1186544007dd ro 3
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-3.2.2-antix.2-486-smp

title        Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.36-1-mepis-smp
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.36-1-mepis-smp root=UUID=8085f4e1-5f09-4bc4-8035-1186544007dd ro nosplash quiet nouveau.modeset=0 
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.36-1-mepis-smp

title        Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.36-1-mepis-smp (init-3)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.36-1-mepis-smp root=UUID=8085f4e1-5f09-4bc4-8035-1186544007dd ro nosplash quiet nouveau.modeset=0 3
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.36-1-mepis-smp

title        Debian GNU/Linux, kernel memtest86+
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/memtest86+.bin

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

Now, what should I move where? __{{emoticon}}__

afab4 · posted: 2012-02-05 01:01

rust collector wrote: Now, what should I move where? __{{emoticon}}__

In your menu.lst, right after the entry:

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gfxmenu /boot/grub/message

delete these lines:

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title antiX at sda1, kernel 2.6.36-1-mepis-smp
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.36-1-mepis-smp root=/dev/sda1 nomce quiet nosplash nouveau.modeset=0 vga=normal
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.36-1-mepis-smp
boot

rust collector · posted: 2012-02-05 01:12

Thanks!
It works great now!

I am thinking that when I have that removed, it will boot the first of the kernels listed after:
## ## End Default Options ##
And
### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

Is that right???

afab4 · posted: 2012-02-05 01:19

rust collector wrote: I am thinking that when I have that removed, it will boot the first of the kernels listed after:
## ## End Default Options ##

That is correct. You can cut & paste the entries around to suit your preference.
You can remove unused kernels by running the smxi script and when you do it will remove the entiries for that kernel in your menu.lst

rust collector · posted: 2012-02-05 01:29

Aah! ok, Thanks again!

rust collector · posted: 2012-02-05 14:01

So, I think I have the dhcpdiscover thing fixed, for now...
I went to /etc/network/interfaces and commented out 2 lines:

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

It has been ok since that, now I just have to find out what else I broke doing that.
I don't use wired networks anyway, so...if it don't work, I won't know.

rust collector · posted: 2012-02-11 18:44

Is there any way to make the sound louder?
I have the mixer set to max...
Is there anything that can"pre-boost" the volume before the mixer (or after, I guess)
When I used vlc, it was ok, but I think it needs a bit more now, using moc,or lxmusic (xmms2)

chrishall57 · posted: 2012-02-11 23:51

Open the mixer, make sure PCI and Master are set to max. Should give you the max volume.