My First Step - Page 6

TheForsaken · posted: 2011-02-04 19:08

masinick wrote:Yeah, we're so close to final - and Debian Squeeze will go stable this weekend. Wait until late weekend or some time next week, or wait until the antiX release, then grab it, download, burn at no higher

Yes, I'm going to wait until the next release of antiX __{{emoticon}}__

than 4x - 6x; I've never had a problem at those speeds.

I've never had any problem with 24x or even higher but it's ok, I might try the lower speed. I read about that. Lower speed is better and I understand why __{{emoticon}}__

For what it's worth, in the USA, I use the debian.lcs.mit.edu mirror at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.) in Cambridge, MA. With Comcast as my broadband provider having network links topologically close to that site, I always do really well with it. Also, just for the sake of information, when I do use Ubuntu derivatives, I switch to the Boston University Ubuntu mirror site and it is massively faster than the main Ubuntu mirror. If you are anywhere near the East Coast, those sites both do really well for downloading packages - MIT for any Debian based stuff, BU for any Ubuntu based stuff.

I'm very far away from USA __{{emoticon}}__ but thanks a lot for this information __{{emoticon}}__

TheForsaken · posted: 2011-02-04 19:22

By the way, I'd like to tell you something.

The issue I had with antiX that was so surprising, it wasn't only with antiX, I got the same issue with:

Ubuntu 10.04 (on two different PCs)
Ubuntu Studio 10.04
Lubuntu 10.04

I was searching and I found this:

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What fixed the issue with the above mentioned distributions was:

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sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True

and if not then

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sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::BrokenProxy=true

Now, sadly that fixed the issue temporary. Once I shutdown and turn on the next day, I have to repeat that again.

I tried:

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apt-get clean

then

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apt-get update

but did not work.

Then I tried this:

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sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5
sudo apt-get update

but nothing worked.

Only the two above commands:

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sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True

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sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::BrokenProxy=true

were very helpful.

Mainly, this is the error message I got with the above listed distributions:

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W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>

What is going on and why it's happening? I have no idea!
Why it works for a while then when I shutdown and turn on again, I got the same error? I have no idea!
My experience with Linux is still fresh (few months old) so it seems I can't find a good reason of what's going on.

Just thought to let you know. So, I guess it's not an antiX problem, looks like it has something to do with another issue.

masinick · posted: 2011-02-04 21:07

So sorry that these problems had to catch you right now, just as you are giving this software a good look. Believe me, keyring issues, while they show up occasionally, are not at all common. If and when they happen, they are far more likely around two particular events: releases and keyring expiration. I believe that a few keys may have recently expired. However, there does seem to be some corruption out there that is affecting some people. That optional argument for turning off the cache access is handy, and that shows that something may be incorrect in the existing cache, but it is quite strange that cleaning the cache doesn't get rid of the problem.

As you mention, sitting and waiting for the new release is probably a good thing. I am so sorry about all of this. I assure you that when all of the release dust settles, you will find antiX to be an outstanding distribution. I hope we've been cordial enough to you that you will come back and sample the release as soon as it is available! Meanwhile, take care, and feel free to stop by and read various posts in the forum. Perhaps some reading over the next few weeks will prove to be quite useful as you start to learn Linux. I recommend both our Wiki and our manual, which you can find navigating from the main site.

TheForsaken · posted: 2011-02-06 12:42

masinick wrote:So sorry that these problems had to catch you right now, just as you are giving this software a good look.

It's okay masinick, very nice of you __{{emoticon}}__
I believe that if one won't get any problem, he/she will never learn how to fix that problem once and for all even if he/she will read many books __{{emoticon}}__

Believe me, keyring issues, while they show up occasionally, are not at all common. If and when they happen, they are far more likely around two particular events: releases and keyring expiration. I believe that a few keys may have recently expired. However, there does seem to be some corruption out there that is affecting some people.

I believe you and it's very good to know that. I thought there is another reason, a 3rd reason beside the two events you mentioned.

That optional argument for turning off the cache access is handy, and that shows that something may be incorrect in the existing cache, but it is quite strange that cleaning the cache doesn't get rid of the problem.

Is there any way to turn the cache off? first of all, from what I understand so far (sorry, didn't read about it yet) is when we do:

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apt-get update

means we're trying to synchronize"sources.list" file with the server (repositories) to keep it up-to-date. Am I right?
So, when we say"cache", is it another file or it's sources.list?

As you mention, sitting and waiting for the new release is probably a good thing. I am so sorry about all of this. I assure you that when all of the release dust settles, you will find antiX to be an outstanding distribution. I hope we've been cordial enough to you that you will come back and sample the release as soon as it is available! Meanwhile, take care, and feel free to stop by and read various posts in the forum.

Hey, I'm not giving up on antiX nor any other distribution __{{emoticon}}__
I had some problems with Fedora and SliTaz people but I'm just taking a break from both. I'll go back once they'll have new release __{{emoticon}}__
I even post on Ubuntu's Forum and Fedora's Forum. I told them that antiX's Forum is THE BEST ever __{{emoticon}}__

So, I'm here __{{emoticon}}__

Perhaps some reading over the next few weeks will prove to be quite useful as you start to learn Linux. I recommend both our Wiki and our manual, which you can find navigating from the main site.

Yes, reading is good and that's one of the good things Linux has changed in my life. I hate reading but that's history. I love it now __{{emoticon}}__
However, I have a different approach in learning. I'm playing with Lubuntu at the moment. I don't have antiX anymore but once you guys will release the new version, I'm going to try it for sure.

I'm new to Linux so the more distribution I try, the more I'll understand. So far, GNOME is my favorite but I'd like to learn more about the other WMs.

Thank you for being so nice and helpful and I'll be around, don't worry __{{emoticon}}__