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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#16
Shay,

I'm not sure where the space problem is. I think its the root filesystem. I don't think it shows up"normally" because I'm running with root persistence. I'm also running with home persistence. Here is a df of the system. It's all running from the USB sdb..

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root@antix1:/home/demo# df
Filesystem     1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1        8125880 2037656   5987956  26% /live/boot-dev
/dev/loop0       1267200 1267200         0 100% /live/linux
tmpfs            1627136  209856   1417280  13% /live/aufs-ram
overlay          1627136  209856   1417280  13% /
/dev/loop1        487652  130431    327525  29% /home
tmpfs              10240       0     10240   0% /media
tmpfs             205620     584    205036   1% /run
tmpfs              10240    3372      6868  33% /live
devtmpfs         1026028       4   1026024   1% /dev
tmpfs               5120       4      5116   1% /run/lock
tmpfs            1240260       0   1240260   0% /run/shm
/dev/sdb2       21832232 2121452  18578756  11% /media/ext4-data
root@antix1:/home/demo# 
I'm not sure what will work at this point. Maybe I just need to run it all normally installed to the USB, but don't have good feelings that will work right plugged into different machines.
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#17
With the USB stick, when I first boot I use this laptop, Presist-all [spelling] , time are selected and let the defaults

Did you try to remaster, now I had that blow out and fill a stick with junk.

I made a new stick.
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#18
I've reduced what I have installed back to pretty much minimum level, ie standard antiX-full + a minesweeper game + curl + ncdu + gdmap + my tweaks to IceWM and Conky. I'll save the flashdrive as is and create a separate new one from the same antiX 16 Full CD, but think I need to find a better way to save my changes. I'm not sure how to do it, but I'm thinking instead of using demo, to create a userid bob and then put /home/bob over on a separate partition of the flashdrive and mount it from there.

Obviously, my knowledge on linux is quite limited, and it shows.
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#19
thriftee wrote:

Obviously, my knowledge on linux is quite limited, and it shows.
I got quite familiar with gpart and re doing USB sticks when I got started myself. Now, if I had $10 for each time. . . .

I do not game, and being deaf, I have no idea if my sound even works.

Reading posts, no matter the subject here, has really helped me learn more about AntiX.

standard antiX-full is what I use.

might get your weather this way.

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$ inxi -w -xxx
Weather:   Conditions: 34 F (1 C) - Overcast Wind: From the South at 5 MPH Humidity: 85%
           Pressure: 30.31 in (1026 mb) Wind Chill: 30 F (-1 C)
           Location: Sheboygan WI (USA) Altitude: 194 ft
           Time: November 26, 8:47 AM CST (America/Chicago) Observation Time: November 26, 7:53 AM CST
jim@antix16:~
$ inxi -W 97311 -xxx
Weather:   Conditions: 42 F (6 C) - fog Wind: Calm Humidity: 96%
           Pressure: 29.57 in (1001 mb) Location: Salem OR (US) Altitude: 59 ft
           Time: November 26, 6:48 AM PST Observation Time: November 26, 6:46 AM PST
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#20
I'm surprised inxi has a current weather conditions option! I never would have looked for that there.

Yes, I did remaster when I ran low on space a while back, and it has its good points and bad, because now I can't easily see what I changed, because its mixed in with the stock antiX 16 code.

Unfortunately, my 64gb flashdrive won't boot reliably due to not being recognized, so I had to go back to my 16gb ones because I don't want to erase the 32gb one I've been using till I know its replacement is good.
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#21
Well, I put together a new stick so you can compare a few things.

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root@antix1:/home/demo# df
Filesystem     1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1        7578552  797392   6373148  12% /live/boot-dev
/dev/loop0        673024  673024         0 100% /live/linux
tmpfs            3204096 1407920   1796176  44% /live/aufs-ram
overlay          3204096 1407920   1796176  44% /
/dev/loop1       1123288   31112   1017068   3% /home
tmpfs              10240       0     10240   0% /media
tmpfs             404024     576    403448   1% /run
tmpfs              10240    4040      6200  40% /live
devtmpfs         2017828       4   2017824   1% /dev
tmpfs               5120       4      5116   1% /run/lock
tmpfs            1723900       0   1723900   0% /run/shm
To check out inxi

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$ man inxi
If you use any computer , other than the one with the Broadcom nic, you will need to go in and put # infront of blacklist wl

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# wl module from Broadcom conflicts with the following modules:
#blacklist b43
blacklist b43legacy
blacklist b44
#blacklist bcma
blacklist brcm80211
blacklist brcmsmac
#blacklist ssb
#blacklist wl
Otherwise, I can never get onto the internet.

Take notes of all the changes, I did and it sure helped!!!
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Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#22
To locate the correct place, I use locate

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$ locate broadcom hit enter and this line reminds me.
/ etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,955
Site Admin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#23
It is not only the size of the usb device, but also how much RAM is available on the box you are booting from.
Default persist stores the changes in RAM ie it eats into it. So when you 'run out of space' it is more likely that you have run out of RAM (space).
Always do a regular remaster if you want to run live persist as a rolling release and you should be ok. But, do note, that persistence is not meant to run as a rolling live release. It can be done, but it is not straightforward.
I do run a frugal-persistent to hard drive 'rolling' sid install, but remaster after almost every upgrade.
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#24
Thanks for the reply, anti. I'm trying to think that through. I didn't realize that the changes were all put into memory. It means I need to remaster because these are old machines with 4gb or less of memory.

The problem I found today was that when I remaster, I lose track of what my changes were because they get mixed in, and I need to remember what I did or at least what I worked on. Maybe I need to do some kind of comparison vs the original system that I downloaded?

To be honest, they are tiny tweaks compared to the distro, but things I like, that are worth my time to me to incorporate, and my goal is to work from a distro that already has 99.5% of what I want, and tweak that last little bit, adding it to each new release, so I don't find myself stuck on an old release running 3 or 4 year old programs with bugs fixed long before (like my current situation).

PS: I watched it load and saw it say it was copying 136mb to ram. Maybe I should just install to my USB?
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Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#25
PS: I watched it load and saw it say it was copying 136mb to ram. Maybe I should just install to my USB?
Interesting, and makes me wonder if you have updated yet?

Because I just saw 999 MB being copied and I have updated.

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demo@antix1:~
$ su
Password: 
root@antix1:/home/demo# apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

And being a new stick, I selected yes when asked about a couple.

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Drives:    HDD Total Size: 128.1GB (5.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SSD2SC120G1CS175 size: 120.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: JumpDrive size: 8.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 3.1G used: 1.2G (37%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
           ID-2: /home size: 1.1G used: 33M (4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/loop1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.69GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 141 Uptime: 18 min Memory: 367.7/3945.5MB
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.3.0 
ID-1 is a PNY SSD.
EDIT:
Just realized

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 ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.69GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
That tells me maybe about half my stick is a swap file.

So post that portion of inxi -Fxz
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#26
Used a 32 GB stick.
updated

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# apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

which took a while.
updated inxi

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# inxi _U
rebooted and saw Copy 1025 megabytes to RAM

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demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.9.3)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8 Distro: antiX-16_x64-full Berta Cáceres 26 June 2016
Machine:   Device: portable System: Dell product: Latitude D630
           Mobo: Dell model: 0KU184 BIOS: Dell v: A15 date: 11/24/2008
Battery    BAT0: charge: 44.0 Wh 229.6% condition: 19.2/44.0 Wh (44%)
           model: Sanyo DELL 62 status: Full
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo T7250 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 7977
           clock speeds: max: 2001 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary)
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: intel Resolution: 1280x800@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5755M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
           driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 09:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n
           driver: b43-pci-bridge bus-ID: 0c:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 152.0GB (4.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SSD2SC120G1CS175 size: 120.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 32.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 3.1G used: 999M (32%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
           ID-2: /home size: 3.8G used: 38M (2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/loop1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.69GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 143 Uptime: 23 min Memory: 375.6/3945.5MB
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#27
Shay,

No, I haven't run the update or upgrade. I've just been using synaptic to add and remove a few packages. I only have 2gb of ram, so that's the limitation, IMO.

I didn't notice before the times I've run out of space how much it was copying to ram.

I've come to the conclusion that I should find a way to track my changes and have a remastered version to use.
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#28
Well, you can upgrade the Dell D620 to 4 GB.

========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/Dell/latitude-d620"
linktext was:"http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatibl ... itude-d620"
====================================


And from what I can find, it will take a SSD.
Takes about 2 minutes on my D630 to swap hdds.
Just ideas.
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#29
Thanks for the idea, but the Dell D620 is my"sacrificial" laptop. I won it in a bet on a game that I shouldn't have won, but somehow did. Its fine at 2gb and 100gb HD because it allows me to find out if anything is slow or inefficient.

When its all working I'll put it on my top of the line 10 yr old junker HP's which are faster and have 4gb and one drive is a fast 32gb SSD (running a pretty modified SlackoPup 5.7.0, Manjaro OpenRC .089 with IceWM and AntiX 13.2) and the main HD has Windows Vista which hasn't been booted in years. I also have a work Laptop which they said I can boot to flashdrive and its a Dell E5540 with 8gb.
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#30
Understand and good luck with the"sacrificial" laptop. LOL