topic title: Replace PcManFM with Thunar
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#1
So. After reading AntiX 11rc1 thread. I figured I'd boot up my Panasonic Cf-48 AntiX 11rc1 and do some experimenting (which for me means see if I can break something) __{{emoticon}}__

I've been reading up some on this change. I looked in /etc/xdg to see if I needed to check on anything. looks ok to me but would like to know if I need to edit anything there or even anywhere else I don't know of before I do a

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# apt-get --purge remove pcmanfm
Edit: __{{emoticon}}__
I am not worried about editing menus/toolbars in Icewm or Fluxbox. Just wondering if any tips/pre-procedure I should know before I proceed with a

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 # apt-get install thunar
Been reading up on
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also. I will wait though to see if my idea is considered safe to do before I take the plunge. I notice hal is a recommends for thunar. So glad I fixed hal and halevt on last upgrade. This is a test install, so lets see what I can do.
Posts: 4,164
rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#2
Almost does not seem worth it as far as freed space is concerned.

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# apt-get --purge remove pcmanfm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libfm-gtk0 lxmenu-data libfm0 libqt3-mt libmenu-cache1
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  pcmanfm*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
After this operation, 1,053 kB disk space will be freed.

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# apt-get -s install thunar
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libqt3-mt
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  exo-utils libexo-0.3-0 libexo-common libthunar-vfs-1-2 libxfce4util-bin
  libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 thunar-data
  thunar-volman xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-panel xfconf
Suggested packages:
  thunar-archive-plugin thunar-media-tags-plugin
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  exo-utils libexo-0.3-0 libexo-common libthunar-vfs-1-2 libxfce4util-bin
  libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 thunar
  thunar-data thunar-volman xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-panel xfconf
0 upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
Inst libxfce4util-common (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [all])
Inst libxfce4util4 (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst libexo-common (0.3.107-1 Debian:testing [all])
Inst libexo-0.3-0 (0.3.107-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst exo-utils (0.3.107-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst thunar-data (1.0.2-1 Debian:testing [all])
Inst libthunar-vfs-1-2 (1.0.2-1+b2 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst libxfce4util-bin (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst xfconf (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst libxfconf-0-2 (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst xfce-keyboard-shortcuts (4.6.4-1 Debian:testing [all])
Inst libxfcegui4-4 (4.6.4-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst thunar (1.0.2-1+b2 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst thunar-volman (0.3.80-5 Debian:testing [i386])
Inst xfce4-panel (4.6.4-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf libxfce4util-common (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [all])
Conf libxfce4util4 (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf libexo-common (0.3.107-1 Debian:testing [all])
Conf libexo-0.3-0 (0.3.107-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf exo-utils (0.3.107-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf thunar-data (1.0.2-1 Debian:testing [all])
Conf libthunar-vfs-1-2 (1.0.2-1+b2 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf libxfce4util-bin (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf xfconf (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf libxfconf-0-2 (4.6.2-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf xfce-keyboard-shortcuts (4.6.4-1 Debian:testing [all])
Conf libxfcegui4-4 (4.6.4-1 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf thunar (1.0.2-1+b2 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf thunar-volman (0.3.80-5 Debian:testing [i386])
Conf xfce4-panel (4.6.4-1 Debian:testing [i386])
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#3
Hmmmm. Should I go for it?

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root@biker:/home/harry# apt-get install thunar-archive-plugin && thunar-media-tags-plugin && thunar
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libqt3-mt
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  exo-utils libexo-0.3-0 libexo-common libthunar-vfs-1-2 libxfce4util-bin
  libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 thunar
  thunar-data thunar-volman xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-panel xfconf
Suggested packages:
  thunar-media-tags-plugin
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  exo-utils libexo-0.3-0 libexo-common libthunar-vfs-1-2 libxfce4util-bin
  libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 thunar
  thunar-archive-plugin thunar-data thunar-volman xfce-keyboard-shortcuts
  xfce4-panel xfconf
0 upgraded, 16 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
Need to get 12.7 MB of archives.
After this operation, 27.5 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#4
Done. Will leave pcmanfm alone for now as not a lot of space saved removing it for now

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Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
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Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main libexo-common all 0.3.107-1 [1,346 kB]
Get:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main libexo-0.3-0 i386 0.3.107-1 [544 kB]
Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main exo-utils i386 0.3.107-1 [125 kB]
Get:6 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main thunar-data all 1.0.2-1 [8,767 kB]
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Get:13 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main thunar i386 1.0.2-1+b2 [226 kB]
Get:14 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main thunar-archive-plugin i386 0.2.4-5 [27.1 kB]
Get:15 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main thunar-volman i386 0.3.80-5 [80.3 kB]
Get:16 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main xfce4-panel i386 4.6.4-1 [608 kB]
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bash: thunar-media-tags-plugin: command not found
root@biker:/home/harry# apt-get install  thunar-media-tags-plugin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libqt3-mt
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  thunar-media-tags-plugin
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
Need to get 33.4 kB of archives.
After this operation, 287 kB of additional disk space will be used.
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Selecting previously deselected package thunar-media-tags-plugin.
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Setting up thunar-media-tags-plugin (0.1.2-2) ...
Lets see if I can learn new tricks. __{{emoticon}}__
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#5
Done editing Icewm and Fluxbox launchers.

Fluxbox

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[begin] (--antiX-M11--)
  [exec] (Terminal) {roxterm}
  [exec] (Files) {rox}
  [exec] (Thunar) {thunar}
  [exec] (PCManFM) {pcmanfm}
  [exec] (Editor) {leafpad}
Icewm toolbar and Menu

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prog"Thunar" /usr/share/icons/Buuf-Deuce/128x128/apps/Thunar.png /usr/bin/thunar
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,955
Site Admin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#6
If you remove pcmanfm, do NOT do the auto-remove as you need lxmenu-data libmenu-cache1 for the auto-menu.
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#7
Tip toeing my way through this Anti, No apt-get clean or apt-get autoremove till I know what I am doing. Thanks for the heads up.

Going to leave the 3 file managers, rox,pcmanfm,mc alone for now. Still researching Configure Custom Actions for now.



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url was:"http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/custom_actions"
linktext was:"http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentat ... om_actions"
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#8
First Hurdle though pcmanfm as well gave me this problem. The Slitaz Mount tool in antixcc though would mount it ok.
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afab4
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
#9
One of the first changes I make on a fresh install is to remove the new version of pcmanfm.
I then enable the Lenny repo's and install the old version of pcmanfm 0.5
Also have to force the shared-mime-info version from Lenny to show the icons properly within pcmanfm.
This lets me pretty much do anything I want logged in as superuser and calling pcmanfm in Terminal.
Shows my other partitions correctly and mounts CD and USB correctly.
The only downfall is if you use apt-get to do an upgrade it wants to upgrade to the newer versions.
I haven't figured out how to lock a version in apt-get.
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dark-D
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
#10
afab4 have a look at Hold and/or Downgrade a package:

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linktext was:"http://manual.aptosid.com/en/sys-admin-apt-en.htm"
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to put pcmanfm on hold, use this as root in a terminal

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echo pcmanfm hold|dpkg --set-selections
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afab4
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
#11
ICE-M wrote:afab4 have a look at Hold and/or Downgrade a package:

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url was:"http://manual.aptosid.com/en/sys-admin-apt-en.htm"
linktext was:"http://manual.aptosid.com/en/sys-admin-apt-en.htm"
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to put pcmanfm on hold, use this as root in a terminal

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echo pcmanfm hold|dpkg --set-selections
This worked great! Used it on both pmanfm and shared-mime-info. Thanks for your help. I made sure to bookmark the link.
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afab4
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
#12
OK...I just installed Thunar to see what it is all about.
How do you make it display the CONTENTS of the other partitions on your hard drive?
I can see my other partitions in /mnt but clicking on their icons doesn't do a thing.
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#13
afab4 wrote:OK...I just installed Thunar to see what it is all about.
How do you make it display the CONTENTS of the other partitions on your hard drive?
I can see my other partitions in /mnt but clicking on their icons doesn't do a thing.
Still setting up thunar myself. Have you got this far yet?
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#14
What worked for me. still Learning though.
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afab4
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
#15
I set up as you did. The only way I can get the contents of the partitions to display is by using the slitaz mount tool in antixcc. While this works, it is clumsy compared to ROXfiler and pcmanfm 0.5