topic title: Palemoon crashes
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#1
Hi friends,

I installed Palemoon but it crashes all the time.

Any advice?

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$ palemoon
Gtk-Message: (for origin information, set GTK_DEBUG): failed to retrieve property `GtkRange::activate-slider' of type `gboolean' from rc file value"((GString*) 0x7efff71fe9a0)" of type `GString'
Gtk-Message: (for origin information, set GTK_DEBUG): failed to retrieve property `GtkRange::activate-slider' of type `gboolean' from rc file value"((GString*) 0x7efff71fe9a0)" of type `GString'
Violación de segmento
luis@antix1:~
$ 
###!!! [Child][SyncChannel] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv
I had installed AdblockPlus and Ghostery, deleted the two add-ons but the crashes persist.

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.0.5-antix.2-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-15-V_x64-full Killah P 30 June 2015
Machine:   System: LENOVO product: 6457CB6 v: ThinkPad T61
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 6457CB6
           Bios: LENOVO v: 7LETB2WW (2.12 ) date: 02/20/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo T7500 (-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 2201 MHz 1: 800 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G86M [Quadro NVS 140M]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: nvidia
           Resolution: 1280x800@59.91hz
           GLX Renderer: Quadro NVS 140M/PCIe/SSE2
           GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.76
Audio:     Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: ALSA v: k4.0.5-antix.2-amd64-smp
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:1c:25:78:64:e3
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection
           driver: iwl4965
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:1f:3b:35:4c:57
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 100.0GB (7.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: HITACHI_HTS72201 size: 100.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 17G used: 3.6G (23%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda4
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 58.0C mobo: 46.0C gpu: 65C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 3065
Info:      Processes: 116 Uptime: 48 min Memory: 508.9/3890.2MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.25
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#2
I installed Palemoon but it crashes all the time.
Try complaining here:


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Oh! I see somebody already has!


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PaleMoon is constantly crashing when performing tasks as simple and commonplace as restoring the window from maximize or clicking on a page link.
That sure looks like a Palemoon problem to me. Not an antix one.
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#3
Oh, but if your browser keeps crashing you can't go to the Pelemoon forum and complain can you?

Maybe you should try Iceweasel, as recommended by antix?
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#4
Iceweasel runs like a charm on Antix, I only thought to try Palemoon.

Yes, I'll complain at the Palemoon's forum when I have the time.

Thanks Alanarchy.
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#5
The Palemoon answer:


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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#6
I would not waste time with PaleMoon.
I'd expect they'll have you running in circles... to an end of either:
A) claiming that they cannot reproduce the problem
B) denying the problem is theirs (so advising you to run their busted browser bare-naked, without"troublesome extensions" installed)
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#7
I have other partition on my T61 ThinkPak running PCLinuxOS (Icewm desktop) and Palemoon works really fine there. Very very less cpu usage than Firefox and stable.

I also installed Palemoon (now 32 bits) in my old HP and I get the same problem.

Can someone else test this webpage with Palemoon?


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When I click in the first news Palemoon crashes in both laptops.
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chrispop99
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
#8
I was able to install Palemoon from the Meta Package Installer, go to the link you posted, and browse around the site with no problems occurring. (Apart from my inability to read Spanish!)

I will say I used to use Palemoon, but found stability issues with it, so stopped using it.

Its main advantage is a small reduction in RAM usage, but unless you are really limited in that respect I would not bother using it.

Chris
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#9
Very very less cpu usage than Firefox and stable.
I agree, but do you understand why so?
PM code is forked from, is approximately equivalent to, ff24 ~~ before so many bloaty ff"features" were added.
If you cared to dl and install ff24, you would achieve a nearly identical (features, CPU utilization) result.

PM is incompatible with nearly half of the 40 or so ff addons that I regularly use.
(outright incompatible, not just:"to work with PM, needs tweaked GUID and/or MinVersion within the extension's install.rdf file")
For me, that's the bottom line, the dealbreaker.
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#10
Thanks for the test @chrispop99. Well, weird, here always crashes __{{emoticon}}__

@skidoo yes, I understand. But I only use Adblock Plus (sometimes AB Edge) and I have not problems with this addon.

Anyway if not solution Iceweasel is still usable on this machine.
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Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#11
uBlock is better than what you list.


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The manual is the better version.
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#12
Shay, I prefer
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gorhill version over Chris's version
but, for casual users, neither of these seems"better" (or even good) because they involve too much setup/fiddling.
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#13
I think yes, but I don't know really...

Can someone answer this question made at the Palemoon forum for a developer?
I'm not really familiar with AntiX. Looks like it uses Fluxbox/IceWM? Does it include all the necessary GTK dependencies for Pale Moon?

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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#14
As I said, they are predictably"running you around in circles".

Iceweasel / firefox runs fine in antix.
They are implying that additional, special"GTK dependencies" exist for Palemoon?
If so, THEY should be aware of any such additional dependencies & should be able to cite them, vs sending you to"go check maybe(s)"
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#15
Still dealing with Palemoon,

I just installed the new 25.6 version from the mepis repositories with the metapackge installer and I got the same crash.

After this I downloaded the built from Palemoon and is working fine without install it:
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The Palemoon thread:


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Any suggestion?