topic title: new alpha2 64 bit antiX to test.
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anticapitalista
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#16
The D blockd dbus. Latest slim now needs it.
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skidooPosts: 1,445
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#17
Indeed, I share his sentiment(s) regarding factions engaged in"branding" and"user lock-in" agendas.
On my own, I had come 'round to thinking/believing the safe course forward is Gtk2 + Qt...
...but I've learned from experience across this past year that it's not an easy course to maintain.
At a glance, Qt sounds good, but far too many of the existing qt apps drag in KDE dependencies.
I tried, in earnest, to get kde to play well (under xfce) with gnome... and across 3 or 4 attempts, it did NOT end well.
With the first"purely" qt app one installs to a system, about 80Mb of dependencies come with it.
edit: not so (libqtgstreamer etc for many apps does result in big, chained dependencies though)
For me, that"first app" is recoll (file indexer).
I can't think of any other best-of-breed qt apps though, and I'm sure not willing to give up my gtk2-based fave apps.
zenity } gtkdialog } yad
Ah, and then there's"actionaz". That might push me over the edge, toward welcoming the presence of qt.
During first run, without reading any docs, I built an interesting"alarm clock" app.
(compared to my spending an entire day wrestling with yad just to tweak an ascii notekeeping util)
Anyhow, my point about zukitwo wasn't specific to spacefm. My point was that it (theme) seems to lack support for gkt3+
(vs"clearbird","bluebird" and a handful of other themes which currently support both gtk2 and gtk3)
and so I'm suggesting replacing zukitwo with a different theme in the next"final" antix release.
I had read that blog entry the same day he posted it.There is an issue with gtk3 and themes
Indeed, I share his sentiment(s) regarding factions engaged in"branding" and"user lock-in" agendas.
On my own, I had come 'round to thinking/believing the safe course forward is Gtk2 + Qt...
...but I've learned from experience across this past year that it's not an easy course to maintain.
At a glance, Qt sounds good, but far too many of the existing qt apps drag in KDE dependencies.
I tried, in earnest, to get kde to play well (under xfce) with gnome... and across 3 or 4 attempts, it did NOT end well.
With the first"purely" qt app one installs to a system, about 80Mb of dependencies come with it.
edit: not so (libqtgstreamer etc for many apps does result in big, chained dependencies though)
For me, that"first app" is recoll (file indexer).
I can't think of any other best-of-breed qt apps though, and I'm sure not willing to give up my gtk2-based fave apps.
zenity } gtkdialog } yad
Ah, and then there's"actionaz". That might push me over the edge, toward welcoming the presence of qt.
During first run, without reading any docs, I built an interesting"alarm clock" app.
(compared to my spending an entire day wrestling with yad just to tweak an ascii notekeeping util)
Anyhow, my point about zukitwo wasn't specific to spacefm. My point was that it (theme) seems to lack support for gkt3+
(vs"clearbird","bluebird" and a handful of other themes which currently support both gtk2 and gtk3)
and so I'm suggesting replacing zukitwo with a different theme in the next"final" antix release.
Last edited by skidoo on 13 Nov 2012, 08:12, edited 2 times in total.
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skidooPosts: 1,445
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#18
I'll look for it. What's the URL for the deb-src repository where"install-meta-antix" source files reside?
the verbiage is probably pulled from .po files eh?That needs fixing when I figure how to do it
I'll look for it. What's the URL for the deb-src repository where"install-meta-antix" source files reside?
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drgPosts: 162
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#19
I found a ntfs winXP Core2 Duo box with 3 Gig ram to play with. Aha, a chance for me to try out the 64 bit version of antiX-12.5-full-alpha2-amd64. Also to see what the fuss is with linux distros needing lots of power. 3 Gig should be plenty to try say the newest mepis.
Hey, I am offering this machine for antiX testing. Glad to try anything you want. Sorry, where this machine lives I don't have a high-speed internet connection.
Got a live with persistence install on this Hard Disk working, no partitioning, no MBR fiddling, using grub4dos.
Changes from the Control Center to eg wallpaper, Startup Services or conky, and writing/saving this text in Lowriter carries over to the next bootup. Haven't tried installing new programmes yet. Rootfs is 3023 meg ext2, homefs is 8192 meg ext4 (why ext4? I don't think I chose that).
Hiccups:
Usually there is no response on trying a reboot or shutdown using the “Quit” button or “Logout” from the menu. But can do so using a halt command either from the 'Run' menu choice ie gexec or from a console ie Ctrl-Alt-F1. I say usually, because sometimes the reboot/shutdown from “Quit” or “Logout” works OK. Also, sometimes I get a freeze up on trying this, and can't get to the console or use the mouse, even need to unplug the machine to start over. But not always.
I understand that with persistence there is a final save to disk on a shutdown, so I wonder if I'm not waiting long enough. I had chosen the semi-automatic save-mode option and I'm not getting a"ask to save on shutdown/reboot”. I did run persist-config again. Inconsistent, so far.
Maybe I should add that this is one of those computers that do not boot right into the gui slim right away, but starts in a console. Typing slim as root starts up the gui. I don't mind that.
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Inserted into menu.lst:
#Live
title antiX-12.5-full-amd64-sda1
root (hd0,0)
kernel /antiX/vmlinuz quiet noxorg vga=791 bdev=sda1 persist antiX=LMX nomodeset
initrd /antiX/initrd.gz
***********************************
$ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: antiX1 Kernel: 3.6.6-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.7.2)
Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-12.5-full-alpha2-amd64 Edelweißpiraten 09 November 2012
Machine: System: Dell product: Precision WorkStation T3400
Mobo: Dell model: 0TP412 Bios: Dell version: A08 date: 08/14/2008
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo CPU E6550 (-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9310.76
Clock Speeds: 1: 2327.693 MHz 2: 2327.693 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A
Audio: Card: Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.25
Network: Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 ver: 3.124 bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 ver: 3.124 bus-ID: 04:00.0
IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (7.6% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST380815AS size: 80.0GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: ST380815AS size: 80.0GB
Partition: ID: /home size: 7.9G used: 31M (1%) fs: ext4
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 12.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 116 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 198.1/3013.7MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.1 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.20
Hey, I am offering this machine for antiX testing. Glad to try anything you want. Sorry, where this machine lives I don't have a high-speed internet connection.
Got a live with persistence install on this Hard Disk working, no partitioning, no MBR fiddling, using grub4dos.
Changes from the Control Center to eg wallpaper, Startup Services or conky, and writing/saving this text in Lowriter carries over to the next bootup. Haven't tried installing new programmes yet. Rootfs is 3023 meg ext2, homefs is 8192 meg ext4 (why ext4? I don't think I chose that).
Hiccups:
Usually there is no response on trying a reboot or shutdown using the “Quit” button or “Logout” from the menu. But can do so using a halt command either from the 'Run' menu choice ie gexec or from a console ie Ctrl-Alt-F1. I say usually, because sometimes the reboot/shutdown from “Quit” or “Logout” works OK. Also, sometimes I get a freeze up on trying this, and can't get to the console or use the mouse, even need to unplug the machine to start over. But not always.
I understand that with persistence there is a final save to disk on a shutdown, so I wonder if I'm not waiting long enough. I had chosen the semi-automatic save-mode option and I'm not getting a"ask to save on shutdown/reboot”. I did run persist-config again. Inconsistent, so far.
Maybe I should add that this is one of those computers that do not boot right into the gui slim right away, but starts in a console. Typing slim as root starts up the gui. I don't mind that.
*******************
Inserted into menu.lst:
#Live
title antiX-12.5-full-amd64-sda1
root (hd0,0)
kernel /antiX/vmlinuz quiet noxorg vga=791 bdev=sda1 persist antiX=LMX nomodeset
initrd /antiX/initrd.gz
***********************************
$ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: antiX1 Kernel: 3.6.6-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.7.2)
Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-12.5-full-alpha2-amd64 Edelweißpiraten 09 November 2012
Machine: System: Dell product: Precision WorkStation T3400
Mobo: Dell model: 0TP412 Bios: Dell version: A08 date: 08/14/2008
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo CPU E6550 (-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9310.76
Clock Speeds: 1: 2327.693 MHz 2: 2327.693 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A
Audio: Card: Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.25
Network: Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 ver: 3.124 bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 ver: 3.124 bus-ID: 04:00.0
IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (7.6% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST380815AS size: 80.0GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: ST380815AS size: 80.0GB
Partition: ID: /home size: 7.9G used: 31M (1%) fs: ext4
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 12.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 116 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 198.1/3013.7MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.1 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.20
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drgPosts: 162
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#20
Install method:
I followed directions and copied the antiX and boot folders from the liveCD onto the XP C:
With grub4dos, I copied its grldr and its sample menu.list to the XP C:
Then modified boot(period)ini by adding: C: GRLDR="Start GRUB" (Put a backslash before GLDR)
I followed directions and copied the antiX and boot folders from the liveCD onto the XP C:
With grub4dos, I copied its grldr and its sample menu.list to the XP C:
Then modified boot(period)ini by adding: C: GRLDR="Start GRUB" (Put a backslash before GLDR)
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skidooPosts: 1,445
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#21
Geez, I was just trying to be helpful.
I've scoured the forum, read and REread the documentation pages...
...and haven't been able to find a link to retrieve the source code for"install-meta-antix".
Is antix no longer an entirely"open source" project?
A week has elapsed since i inquired.skidoo wrote:the verbiage is probably pulled from .po files eh?That needs fixing when I figure how to do it
I'll look for it. What's the URL for the deb-src repository where"install-meta-antix" source files reside?
Geez, I was just trying to be helpful.
I've scoured the forum, read and REread the documentation pages...
...and haven't been able to find a link to retrieve the source code for"install-meta-antix".
Is antix no longer an entirely"open source" project?
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anticapitalista
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#22
Here is the original source from sidux. (as you can see, deprecated)
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/fullstory/install-meta/?pathrev=15472"
linktext was:"http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/fullstory ... hrev=15472"
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The only changes have been in the changes to the .bm files in /usr/share/install-meta/
No, just one with limited resources __{{emoticon}}__skidoo wrote:
Is antix no longer an entirely"open source" project?
Here is the original source from sidux. (as you can see, deprecated)
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/fullstory/install-meta/?pathrev=15472"
linktext was:"http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/fullstory ... hrev=15472"
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The only changes have been in the changes to the .bm files in /usr/share/install-meta/
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skidooPosts: 1,445
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#23
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/install-meta/trunk/src/interface.c
line 390
"sidux contains < b>only dfsg free software< /b>, so..."
also, a few other spots might merit touch-up:
Contents of /install-meta/trunk/debian/install-meta.menu
hints="sidux,Config" \
/install-meta/trunk/debian/changelog
various lines
/install-meta/trunk/src/callbacks.c
lines 1058 + 1068
-e 's|\\(.*deb.*sidux.* main\\).*|\\1 contrib non-free fix.main fix.contrib fix.non-free|' \
/install-meta/trunk/src/main.c
line 49
/install-meta/trunk/README
line 1
Ah, okay. __{{emoticon}}__limited resources __{{emoticon}}__
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/install-meta/trunk/src/interface.c
line 390
"sidux contains < b>only dfsg free software< /b>, so..."
also, a few other spots might merit touch-up:
Contents of /install-meta/trunk/debian/install-meta.menu
hints="sidux,Config" \
/install-meta/trunk/debian/changelog
various lines
/install-meta/trunk/src/callbacks.c
lines 1058 + 1068
-e 's|\\(.*deb.*sidux.* main\\).*|\\1 contrib non-free fix.main fix.contrib fix.non-free|' \
/install-meta/trunk/src/main.c
line 49
/install-meta/trunk/README
line 1
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mrootPosts: 20
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#24
Installs and boots okay. There are 3 entries for Synaptic in fluxbox-->Applications-->Preferences instead of the normal two entries.
I have a question about testing new ISOs. Do you guys have a routine you go thru to evaluate a new alpha or beta? Do you go thru the control centre icons systematically or have a set of steps you use to look for bugs? I mean I install the ISO to a partition and start using it but I not"testing it" in a systematic sense. Also is posting info on my hardware helpful when I reply to this thread? I could use inxi with whatever options you would like and add the results to my replies but is that useful to anyone? I am not a programmer or an IT person so any guidance you could supply would be appreciated.
-Mike
I have a question about testing new ISOs. Do you guys have a routine you go thru to evaluate a new alpha or beta? Do you go thru the control centre icons systematically or have a set of steps you use to look for bugs? I mean I install the ISO to a partition and start using it but I not"testing it" in a systematic sense. Also is posting info on my hardware helpful when I reply to this thread? I could use inxi with whatever options you would like and add the results to my replies but is that useful to anyone? I am not a programmer or an IT person so any guidance you could supply would be appreciated.
-Mike
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OU812Posts: 1,081
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#25
I've installed the core and base iso's. Both are having problems getting the screen size correct. The screen is too small at 1024x768. Things are a little blurry in spots and everything looks stretched. I tried booting into run level 3 and running
but got error messages about a hardware conflict (something about dual monitors but only one detected).
I think roky has a post somewhere about using xrandr to set the resolution. I'll try that next.
EDIT Using xrandr looked a little tricky so I shied away from it. I booted the livecd which detected my resolution at 1024x768, so I couldn't just copy the config file. Will try other livecds and copy a working config file. Hopefully that works.
EDIT Tried the advice in this post but no joy resolution-on-netbook-t4091.html#p27397
Then I tried installing kernel 3.6.9 but that didn't help either. Interestingly, the output of"inxi -F" shows I'm using kernel 3.6.6 and my video driver is"vesa" instead of the intel driver for my card. And that's weird since the intel driver was installed from the iso.
john
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#Xorg -configureI think roky has a post somewhere about using xrandr to set the resolution. I'll try that next.
EDIT Using xrandr looked a little tricky so I shied away from it. I booted the livecd which detected my resolution at 1024x768, so I couldn't just copy the config file. Will try other livecds and copy a working config file. Hopefully that works.
EDIT Tried the advice in this post but no joy resolution-on-netbook-t4091.html#p27397
Then I tried installing kernel 3.6.9 but that didn't help either. Interestingly, the output of"inxi -F" shows I'm using kernel 3.6.6 and my video driver is"vesa" instead of the intel driver for my card. And that's weird since the intel driver was installed from the iso.
john
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pcpavnzPosts: 19
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#26
@ anticapitalista, Thanks for the new kernel with uvcvideo compiled in, my webcam now works. Quality is not great, but it's good enough for now.
The 3.6.9 kernel works, will retest with the 3.7.1.
The 3.6.9 kernel works, will retest with the 3.7.1.
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pcpavnzPosts: 19
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#27
Same again with 3.7.1.
ISO needs to have print-driver-gutenprint installed to give a larger group of printers. I think I originally only had 7 to choose from, when I installed the above package, the installation went smooth as silk.
I don't think I've found anything not already reported like certain menu entries not working, but just in case, the meta installer fails to load gimp-full.
When messing with the icewm themes, sometimes the background behind conky goes dark. Refreshing the wallpaper sorts it out, but I have not modified any graphics drivers or settings yet.
Hibernate does not work.
ISO needs to have print-driver-gutenprint installed to give a larger group of printers. I think I originally only had 7 to choose from, when I installed the above package, the installation went smooth as silk.
I don't think I've found anything not already reported like certain menu entries not working, but just in case, the meta installer fails to load gimp-full.
When messing with the icewm themes, sometimes the background behind conky goes dark. Refreshing the wallpaper sorts it out, but I have not modified any graphics drivers or settings yet.
Hibernate does not work.
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System: Host: antiX1 Kernel: 3.7.1-antix.3-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit)
Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-12.5-full-alpha2-amd64 Edelweißpiraten 09 November 2012
Machine: System: LENOVO product: 1143AB2 version: ThinkPad E520
Mobo: LENOVO model: 1143AB2 Bios: LENOVO version: 8HET41WW(1.23) date: 01/13/2012
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i7-2640M CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx)
Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz 3: 800.00 MHz 4: 800.00 MHz
Graphics: Card-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series]
X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio: Card: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.7.1-antix.3-amd64-smp
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: f0:de:f1:d4:19:23
Card-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 9c:b7:0d:51:db:80
Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (0.1% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK2552GS size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID: / size: 20G used: 3.8G (21%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 101G used: 223M (1%) fs: ext4
ID: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 59.5
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info: Processes: 138 Uptime: 46 min Memory: 338.6/7902.5MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.20 -
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Right, I'm up and running with the new box now and thus far everything works perfectly.
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$ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: antiX64 Kernel: 3.7.10-antix.2-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.7.2)
Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.2 Distro: antiX-13-beta2-pt1_x64-full Ahmad Sami 24 March 2013
Machine: Mobo: Gigabyte model: GA-78LMT-USB3 version: x.x Bios: Award version: F4 date: 10/19/2012
CPU: Octa core AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core (-MCP-) cache: 16384 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 64288.3
Clock Speeds: 1: 1400.00 MHz 2: 1400.00 MHz 3: 1400.00 MHz 4: 1400.00 MHz 5: 1400.00 MHz 6: 1400.00 MHz 7: 1400.00 MHz 8: 1400.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Turks [Radeon HD 6670] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.12.4 driver: fglrx Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: AMD Radeon HD 6670 GLX Version: 4.2.12002 - CPC 9.012 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Turks/Whistler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6000 Series]
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1
Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.7.10-antix.2-amd64-smp
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: ee00 bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1000.3GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: MB1000EAMZE size: 1000.2GB
2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: USB_Flash_Disk size: 0.1GB
Partition: ID: / size: 915G used: 7.2G (1%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 2.17GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0C mobo: 31.0C gpu: 36.50C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1201 fan-1: 2311 fan-3: 0
Info: Processes: 140 Uptime: 7:43 Memory: 569.3/32180.7MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.2
Client: Shell (bash 4.2.37) inxi: 1.8.45