antiX-16-a1 available for testing.

anticapitalista · posted: 2016-03-15 11:23

32 bit full version only at the moment. NB: This is an Alpha build

There aren't too many differences under the hood between this version and the 15/15.1 release.

Main differences are:

* 4.4.2 kernel so those cheap netbooks that have flooded the market will work correctly (many need 4.3 kernel and later)
* UEFI support in the installer. Work in progress and works for 64 bit only.

antiX-16, although based on Debian Jessie, uses sysvinit and eudev.

We are proudly systemd-free!

Defaults to IceWM with a Rox desktop. F6 at live boot gives the user many options.

For those with very old laptops/desktops, the lightest option in terms of RAM usage is JWM.

The min-* options do not use a desktop and no wallpaper to keep RAM usage down to a bare minimum.

Please test on real hardware as well as in VBox.

We are particularly interested in finding out how well the iso-snapshot app works as well as running live with persistence and remastering the running live session.

Users happy with antiX-15 have no need to replace it with this version.

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dolphin_oracle · posted: 2016-03-15 11:30

anti,

does 16-a1 installer include the stuff BitJam was working on for UEFI installs, or is the UEFI stuff that we put together for MX?

anticapitalista · posted: 2016-03-15 12:47

d_o - at the moment mainly MX UEFI stuff with some extras but not all from BJ since MX-15 release.

eugen-b · posted: 2016-03-15 22:04

I already encountered notebooks which run only with kernel 4.5 __{{emoticon}}__
I will download and try to compare with Holmes' JWM. __{{emoticon}}__

A question: Do you sign the iso or the md5sum on Sourceforge?

eugen-b · posted: 2016-03-16 13:37

I tested the ISO on live USB stick. I tried to create the live stick with Unetbootin, but it failed to load on two machines. I forgot what the error was but s.th. with"32". __{{emoticon}}__ So I used SuSe Imagewriter (equivalent to dd command, I guess) and was able to to boot. But this way I won't have live persistence. Maybe will boot with this stick again and try to write the ISO with antix2usb on another stick.

The visual impression from live session is nice. I already forgot a little bit what the previous version looked like. But I remember they used a bit more RAM.
- Were there these Fluxbox styles with"Large" and"Medium" fonts on previous versions? I find them great! I would recommend to adjust the styles to have the icons a bit bigger, like on JWM. Do this by adding a line menu.itemHeight: 22 or 24 to the style config.
- Is is possible to make JWM menu appear only on right click not just with SpaceFM desktop but also with ROX and plain?
- A big show stopper was that I wasn't able to enable my WiFi card. I usually run sudo modprobe b43 and it appears. But b43 is blacklisted by default... So it would work only on installed or persistent system by unblacklisting it.

inxi output will be added later, here is it from another OS:

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Machine:   Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: MS-7418 v: 100 Bios: MICRO-STAR v: 1.30 date: 09/19/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom 230 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3193 
           clock speeds: max: 1596 MHz 1: 1596 MHz 2: 1596 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: N/A Resolution: 1366x768@59.79hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 11.1.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.5-1-MANJARO
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8168 v: 8.040.00-NAPI port: e800 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: ens32 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN driver: b43-pci-bridge bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>

dolphin_oracle · posted: 2016-03-16 13:48

thanks for posting your wireless info. that card should work with the default driver. I'll look into it.

dolphin_oracle · posted: 2016-03-16 13:52

eugen-b wrote:I tested the ISO on live USB stick. I tried to create the live stick with Unetbootin, but it failed to load on two machines. I forgot what the error was but s.th. with"32". __{{emoticon}}__ So I used SuSe Imagewriter (equivalent to dd command, I guess) and was able to to boot. But this way I won't have live persistence. Maybe will boot with this stick again and try to write the ISO with antix2usb on another stick.

The visual impression from live session is nice. I already forgot a little bit what the previous version looked like. But I remember they used a bit more RAM.
- Were there these Fluxbox styles with"Large" and"Medium" fonts on previous versions? I find them great! I would recommend to adjust the styles to have the icons a bit bigger, like on JWM. Do this by adding a line menu.itemHeight: 22 or 24 to the style config.
- Is is possible to make JWM menu appear only on right click not just with SpaceFM desktop but also with ROX and plain?
- A big show stopper was that I wasn't able to enable my WiFi card. I usually run sudo modprobe b43 and it appears. But b43 is blacklisted by default... So it would work only on installed or persistent system by unblacklisting it.

inxi output will be added later, here is it from another OS:
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Machine:   Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: MS-7418 v: 100 Bios: MICRO-STAR v: 1.30 date: 09/19/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom 230 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3193 
           clock speeds: max: 1596 MHz 1: 1596 MHz 2: 1596 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: N/A Resolution: 1366x768@59.79hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 11.1.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.5-1-MANJARO
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8168 v: 8.040.00-NAPI port: e800 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: ens32 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN driver: b43-pci-bridge bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>

You will need to upgrade syslinux to make a bootable usb stick. also, at the com_32 error, just type"live" and it should boot, although without all the cool menu options.

you could also use a live session of antix-16 to make the stick.

dolphin_oracle · posted: 2016-03-16 14:27

OK, a few quick points, fully aware that this is alpha.

1. make users a part of vboxsf group by default (especially important if vbox additions are installed by default )

2. will 16 be jessie-based? if so, some bm files can be tweaked (supertuxkart, others). if not, then the libreoffice5 bm file needs removed.

3. can't test uefi in installer since its 64 bit only. uefi boot does work though.

4. link in applications>preferences for the Installer remains after install. non-functional.

5. gdebi?

6. persist-save
bind mount errors on persist save, which I would say fall down to something wrong withthe mount command, given the terminal output. However, I really like the error message the gui persist-save gives you when the persist-save fails. However, the console persist-save version on shutdown doesn't give you a pause to read any messages.

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demo@antiX1:~
$ sudo persist-save

Usage:
 mount [-lhV]
 mount -a [options]
 mount [options] [--source] <source> | [--target] <directory>
 mount [options] <source> <directory>
 mount <operation> <mountpoint> [<target>]

Options:
 -a, --all               mount all filesystems mentioned in fstab
 -c, --no-canonicalize   don't canonicalize paths
 -f, --fake              dry run; skip the mount(2) syscall
 -F, --fork              fork off for each device (use with -a)
 -T, --fstab <path>      alternative file to / etc/fstab
 -h, --help              display this help text and exit
 -i, --internal-only     don't call the mount.<type> helpers
 -l, --show-labels       lists all mounts with LABELs
 -n, --no-mtab           don't write to / etc/mtab
 -o, --options <list>    comma-separated list of mount options
 -O, --test-opts <list>  limit the set of filesystems (use with -a)
 -r, --read-only         mount the filesystem read-only (same as -o ro)
 -t, --types <list>      limit the set of filesystem types
     --source <src>      explicitly specifies source (path, label, uuid)
     --target <target>   explicitly specifies mountpoint
 -v, --verbose           say what is being done
 -V, --version           display version information and exit
 -w, --rw, --read-write  mount the filesystem read-write (default)

 -h, --help     display this help and exit
 -V, --version  output version information and exit

Source:
 -L, --label <label>     synonym for LABEL=<label>
 -U, --uuid <uuid>       synonym for UUID=<uuid>
 LABEL=<label>           specifies device by filesystem label
 UUID=<uuid>             specifies device by filesystem UUID
 PARTLABEL=<label>       specifies device by partition label
 PARTUUID=<uuid>         specifies device by partition UUID
 <device>                specifies device by path
 <directory>             mountpoint for bind mounts (see --bind/rbind)
 <file>                  regular file for loopdev setup

Operations:
 -B, --bind              mount a subtree somewhere else (same as -o bind)
 -M, --move              move a subtree to some other place
 -R, --rbind             mount a subtree and all submounts somewhere else
 --make-shared           mark a subtree as shared
 --make-slave            mark a subtree as slave
 --make-private          mark a subtree as private
 --make-unbindable       mark a subtree as unbindable
 --make-rshared          recursively mark a whole subtree as shared
 --make-rslave           recursively mark a whole subtree as slave
 --make-rprivate         recursively mark a whole subtree as private
 --make-runbindable      recursively mark a whole subtree as unbindable

For more details see mount(8).
persist-save error:
Could not bind mount /live/boot-dev /home/demo/LiveUSB-Storage /root/LiveUSB-Storage to /live/boot-dev.
demo@antiX1:~
$

7. bind mount error also affects remaster-live

eugen-b · posted: 2016-03-16 15:19

Booted again with live USB and this time I avoided to launch wicd, instead I launched ceni. First it didn't see the WiFi interface but after sudo modprobe b43 it did and this time I was able to connect! __{{emoticon}}__

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$ inxi -Fxxz
System:    Host: antiX1 Kernel: 4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.3)
           Desktop: JWM sn-579 dm: slim
           Distro: antiX-16-a1_386-full Berta Cáceres 14 March 2016
Machine:   Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: MS-7418 v: 100
           Bios: MICRO-STAR v: 1.30 date: 09/19/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel 230 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3191
           clock speeds: max: 1595 MHz 1: 1595 MHz 2: 1595 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2772
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@59.79hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:27d8
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e800
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
           driver: b43-pci-bridge bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4311
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: NA (-)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Corsair_CSSD size: 32.0GB serial: 10350128070009870032
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdc model: Silicon size: 3.9GB serial: 1306149501500170-0:0
Partition: ID-1: / size: 1.6G used: 1.2M (1%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 126 Uptime: 20 min Memory: 121.0/2008.2MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301 running in roxterm) inxi: 2.2.31

dolphin_oracle · posted: 2016-03-16 15:39

eugen-b, thanks for the post about your wireless card. your particular hardware combination helps us eliminate some issues we were monitoring previously. we are looking at updating a script that tries to figure out which card is in use and what driver to use.

@anti, kmathern is going to change BroadcomStartup to fix this issue in mx-goodies, but is there a package online for antiX somewhere?

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dolphin_oracle · posted: 2016-03-16 15:42

iso-snapshot

I've made 2 snapshots this morning, one resetting accounts, one preserving the user account. No hiccups with either.

"boot" menu says"custom name" for each. I assume this is a work in progress given the default boot menu seems to be using fields.

neither put a installer icon on the desktop. The installer icon in Preferences>Installer works for the reset iso but not for the preserved iso. seems to be looking for the"demo account", which isn't present on a preserved snapshot iso. running minstall manually from terminal worked fine.

eugen-b · posted: 2016-03-16 15:59

- JWM theming: I would prefer the black JWM theme to have a lighter font colour in inactive window titles, the same white as on the panel for example. I wouldnt mind if active window decoration was dark as well.
- Hardware: I have a problem that my integrated SD card reader is not being detected. The same card in a USB adapter gets detected.

Shay · posted: 2016-03-16 19:45

Same problem I had with MX-15, wrong Broadcom driver.
Love the way it picked up USB drive so I could save to it. A winner.

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demo@antiX1:~
$ lspci -vv -s 0c:00.0
0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
    Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1500 Draft 802.11n WLAN Mini-card
    Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
    Region 0: Memory at f6cfc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
    Region 2: Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=1M]
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: wl

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demo@antiX1:~
$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: antiX1 Kernel: 4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.3)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-16-a1_386-full Berta Cáceres 14 March 2016
Machine:   System: Dell product: Latitude D630
           Mobo: Dell model: 0KU184 Bios: Dell v: A15 date: 11/24/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo T7250 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 7977
           clock speeds: max: 2001 MHz 1: 1200 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary)
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x800@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5755M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
           driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 09:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n driver: wl bus-ID: 0c:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 168.1GB (9.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SSD2SC120G1CS175 size: 120.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 32.0GB
           ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: Patriot_Memory size: 16.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 2.8G used: 18M (1%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.69GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 57.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 130 Uptime: 18 min Memory: 132.3/3528.8MB
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.2.31

Pleasant drop in Ram usage too.
AntiX-15 has this bit right for the Broadcom business.
Will test more laptops.

Shay · posted: 2016-03-16 20:56

Same USB stick I used before and darn if if the password was remembered for the internet log in.
Just a straight , non persist stick, all I selected was the F3 place.
Like this desktop background!!!

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demo@antiX1:~
$ inxi -Fx
System:    Host: antiX1 Kernel: 4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.3)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8 Distro: antiX-16-a1_386-full Berta Cáceres 14 March 2016
Machine:   System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C55-A v: PSCF6U-0NG09N
           Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP Bios: Insyde v: 1.30 date: 09/16/2013
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i3-3110M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9577
           clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 1224 MHz 2: 1237 MHz 3: 1205 MHz 4: 2210 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.2-antix.2-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet
           driver: alx port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:8c:fa:9f:53:63
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: rtl8188ee port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 28:e3:47:7e:f0:9e
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1032.2GB (0.1% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: HGST_HTS541010A9 size: 1000.2GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 32.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 2.3G used: 18M (1%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 157 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 154.7/2924.3MB
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.2.31

Posting using this laptop.

Shay · posted: 2016-03-16 21:23

This laptop will not boot the USB stick.
Bought it new in November.

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System Manufacturer    TOSHIBA    
System Model    Satellite E45W-C    
System Type    x64-based PC    
System SKU    PSLZAU    
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-5015U CPU @ 2.10GHz, 2100 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)    
BIOS Version/Date    INSYDE Corp. 5.00, 7/1/2015    
SMBIOS Version    2.7    
Embedded Controller Version    5.00    
BIOS Mode    UEFI