topic title: AntiX 15 b3-V
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#76
BitJam wrote:

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# Required-Start:    $local_fs $syslog $remote_fs dbus
# Required-Stop:     $local_fs $syslog $remote_fs
# Default-Start:     2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop:      0 1 6
Thanks! I had forgetten those lines exist
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#77
boot menu
FYI, choosing"1600x1200" or"1600x1200*" via F7 leads to an error message"unknown video mode. Choose... or press space to continue"
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james c
Joined: 23 Apr 2014
#78
Another install.....

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james@antix1:~
$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.0.0-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-15-beta3-V_386-full Killah P 31 May 2015
Machine:   Mobo: MICRO-STAR INTL model: MS-7037 v: Ver 0A
           Bios: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG date: 06/08/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 3000 MHz 1: 3000 MHz 2: 3000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x768@85.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 10.3.2
Audio:     Card Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_intel8x0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.0.0-antix.1-486-smp
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
           driver: 8139too
           IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:11:09:27:3b:5a
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 400.1GB (1.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2000JB size: 200.0GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD2000JB size: 200.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 26G used: 2.4G (10%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.20GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 103 Uptime: 16 min Memory: 257.5/2012.4MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.16
Posts: 1,308
BitJam
Joined: 31 Aug 2009
#79
skidoo wrote:boot menu
FYI, choosing"1600x1200" or"1600x1200*" via F7 leads to an error message"unknown video mode. Choose... or press space to continue"
Is there a 1600x1200 mode listed after you press <Enter>? If not then this is not a bug. If so then please tell me the hex code that is associated with 1600x1200. for example running in Virtual Box here I have an entry:

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y 347 1600x1200x32
The hex code is"347". This translates to 839 in decimal. This is the value that is used for the"1600x1200*" entry in the F7 menu. These vga values for the higher resolutions are not standardized but we can still try to accommodate a range of hardware, especially hardware that is used by our testers.
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#80
This post is about identifying"seemingly unnecessary bloat" in the build.

From checking /live/linux path, it seems to me the build process could/should withhold the following from the squashfs:
/var/cache/man/* 1.2Mb
/var/cache/apt-show-versions/* 9.6Mb (regenerated each time"apt update" is performed)

Also, instead of"fonts-dejavu" (metapackage), perhaps package"fonts-dejavu-core" would suffice.
The metapackage pulls in"fonts-dejavu-extra" @6.5Mb
After consulting these pages, I can't find a clear answer to"What does 'fonts-dejavu-extra' actually provide?"

========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page"
linktext was:"http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page"
====================================


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DejaVu_fonts"
linktext was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DejaVu_fonts"
====================================


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"https://packages.debian.org/stable/fonts-dejavu-extra"
linktext was:"https://packages.debian.org/stable/fonts-dejavu-extra"
====================================


edited to add:
(I haven't done so, but) should be able to determine"What does 'fonts-dejavu-extra' actually provide?"
by installing debian packages"font-manager" and"gucharmap" then using font-manager to display a grid of character entities.
Last edited by skidoo on 06 Jun 2015, 16:58, edited 1 time in total.
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#81
BitJam, I'm sitting at at 1920x1080 monitor. The other PC I had been using to test had a 4:3 monitor,
so I figured I should change the previous F8-saved (1024x768?) choice.
I tried both of the 1600x options offered @F7; both resulted in the error I reported.
I'll need to recheck, but I believe a matching entry was offered on the"modes hexcodes and choose an alphabet letter" screen (which led me to report this as a bug).
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#82
BitJam wrote:
skidoo wrote:boot menu
FYI, choosing"1600x1200" or"1600x1200*" via F7 leads to an error message"unknown video mode. Choose... or press space to continue"
Is there a 1600x1200 mode listed after you press <Enter>? If not then this is not a bug. If so then please tell me the hex code that is associated with 1600x1200. for example running in Virtual Box here I have an entry:

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y 347 1600x1200x32
The hex code is"347". This translates to 839 in decimal. This is the value that is used for the"1600x1200*" entry in the F7 menu. These vga values for the higher resolutions are not standardized but we can still try to accommodate a range of hardware, especially hardware that is used by our testers.
My code for 1600x1200x16 is 34B. For 1600x1200x32 its 34A. This is running live.
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BitJam
Joined: 31 Aug 2009
#83
Thanks D.O!
skidoo wrote:BitJam, I'm sitting at at 1920x1080 monitor.
If there is a hex code for this resolution, please tell me that as well.

In fact, please give me the hex codes for any resolutions that aren't in the F7-Console menu or are in the menu and are broken on your machine(s). As I said before, this is all non-standard so the same hex code won't work on all hardware.
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#84
Sorry. Bad report. Time for me to go mow the lawn, get some fresh air...
skidoo wrote:I'm sitting at at 1920x1080 monitor.
Gee, 1600x1200 don't hardly work. Duh! {headbang}
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,955
Site Admin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#85
skidoo wrote:This post is about identifying"seemingly unnecessary bloat" in the build.

From checking /live/linux path, it seems to me the build process could/should withhold the following from the squashfs:
/var/cache/man/* 1.2Mb
/var/cache/apt-show-versions/* 9.6Mb (regenerated each time"apt update" is performed)

Also, instead of"fonts-dejavu" (metapackage), perhaps package"fonts-dejavu-core" would suffice.
The metapackage pulls in"fonts-dejavu-extra" @6.5Mb
After consulting these pages, I can't find a clear answer to"What does 'fonts-dejavu-extra' actually provide?"

========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page"
linktext was:"http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page"
====================================


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DejaVu_fonts"
linktext was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DejaVu_fonts"
====================================


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"https://packages.debian.org/stable/fonts-dejavu-extra"
linktext was:"https://packages.debian.org/stable/fonts-dejavu-extra"
====================================
If you are sure that emptying /var/cache/man/* and /var/cache/apt-show-versions/* at build is ok, then we'll definitely include it.
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Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#86
Put in wrong place
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#87
Updated and running nicely.

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inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: antix15 Kernel: 4.0.4-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.2)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-15-beta3-V_386-full Killah P 31 May 2015
Machine:   System: Dell product: OptiPlex 755
           Mobo: Dell model: 0GM819 Bios: Dell v: A21 date: 12/07/2011
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E6750 (-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 10639
           clock speeds: max: 2667 MHz 1: 2000 MHz 2: 2000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1600x900@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Q35 x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.0.4-antix.1-486-smp
Network:   Card: Intel 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection
           driver: e1000e v: 2.3.2-k port: ecc0 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (0.5% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: HITACHI_HUA72101 size: 1000.2GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 915G used: 2.8G (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.17GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 127 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 95.8/1977.3MB
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.2.22
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#88
sure that emptying /var/cache/man/* and /var/cache/apt-show-versions/* at build is ok
Yes. I've had those paths in my snapshot/remaster excludes list for 2yrs.
# IF ABSENT, THIS CONTENT IS AUTOGENERATED WHEN NEEDED (UPON FIRST RUN OF apt update, BY ROOT OR SUDOER)
/var/cache/apt-show-versions/*

# its content is auto-generated by /etc/cron.daily/man-db calling /usr/bin/mandb (can also regenerate, at will, by manually running mandb)
/var/cache/man/*
edited to add:
Even if cron.daily isn't run, /var/cache/man/* content is also autogenerated by dpkg post-install trigger
Last edited by skidoo on 06 Jun 2015, 16:50, edited 1 time in total.
Posts: 1,444
skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#89
This post is is to suggest adding helplinks to reach preinstalled documentation which is (AFAICT) currently not easily discoverable.

Links to the following (extensive) preinstalled docs could be added to /usr/share/antiX/FAQ/icewm.html#_links
file:///usr/share/doc/icewm-common/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ.html/

could be (should be) linked from file:///usr/share/antiX/FAQ/index.html
file:///usr/share/doc/streamtuner2/help/html/index.html/
('should' because it is NOT accessible via the program's GUI ~~ it's"Documentation" button does nothing)

Links to the following preinstalled docs could (should?) be added into /usr/share/antiX/FAQ/conky.html#_links
(note: these lack hyperlinked navigation between each other)
file:///usr/share/doc/conky-std/docs.html
file:///usr/share/doc/conky-std/config_settings.html
file:///usr/share/doc/conky-std/variables.html
also
I suggest adding the following to the head (or foot) of /etc/skel/.conkrc
(discoverable when controlCenter --} desktop (tab) --} Edit System Monitor is used)

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##### 
# for extensive conky documentation, see:
#  /usr/share/doc/conky-std/docs.html
#  /usr/share/doc/conky-std/config_settings.html
#  /usr/share/doc/conky-std/variables.html
#####
additional (uncategorized) onboard docs which I think merit linking to, from within antiX helpdocs:
(Paste 'em into the foot of existing help index page, or FAQ page, under a"additional (uncategorized) onboard helpdocs" section?)

file:///usr/share/doc/nano/faq.html
file:///usr/share/vim/vim74/doc/

file:///usr/share/doc/python/FAQ.html
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
file:///usr/share/doc/bittorrent/FAQ.html (or file:///usr/share/doc/bittorrent/ )
file:///usr/share/doc/p7zip-full/DOCS/MANUAL/index.htm
file:///usr/share/doc/menu/html/ch3.html

file:///usr/share/sane/xsane/doc/index.html
file:///usr/share/doc/libsane/html/sane-mfgs.html
file:///usr/share/cups/doc-root/index.html
file:///usr/share/doc/printer-driver-gutenprint/FAQ.html
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skidoo
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#90
If struggling to meet target size for iso, consider omitting/nixing this:

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# 7Mb worth of oversized png iconfiles I'll never use
rm -Rf /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/256x256/*