anticapitalista
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#1
I have made available the latest and greatest kernel version - 4.8.

Install manually via apt-get or synaptic.
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Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#2
It bite me bad enough I ended up doing a clean install.
Even after reading this:

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url was:"http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/linus_torvalds_admits_buggy_crap_made_it_into_linux_48/"
linktext was:"http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05 ... _linux_48/"
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hobbyist7890
Joined: 24 Apr 2016
#3
Shay wrote:It bite me bad enough I ended up doing a clean install.
This kernel also failed to boot for my antix16 install. I tried twice to get 4.8.0 to run without effect.

I installed the linux-image-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp and left the linux-image-4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp so I had both kernels showing in my grub menu. I would have been in trouble too if I had removed the old kernel before trying the new kernel.

I failed to write down the errors. I was left in the initramfs both times with something about not finding the /sbin/init. There must be something wrong with the 4.8.0 kernel package.

EDIT: Also, if your installation is important you can boot from a live disk and install an older kernel. You could maybe boot the root partition directly from the live disk or at least chroot to your root partition and then apt-get safely.

EDIT2: If you kept the old install then you could just mount that and copy the kernel and initrd from the new root to the old root /boot. Grub can be told how to find the working kernel with a little practice.
anticapitalista
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#4
Are you running sid? It installed ok for me on sid and the jessie version also installed without issue in VBox.
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Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#5
It installed fine in jessie, just took forever to boot up, each and every time for 6 total, and killed the networking, even though it it was using the right driver.
It could not see any wireless routers for some reason.
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Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#6
Dell Latitude D630 with SSD and using kernel Kernel: 4.4.10
Boot time about 30 seconds.
updated to 4.8
Kernal 4.8 boot time is right close to 5 minutes and 4 times I had a blank screen. Again , no wireless.
Seen several disabled in Bios statements during bootup..
Removed 4.8 and all is well.

To old is my guess right now.
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#7
What am I missing? Already did a apt-get update

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harry@biker:~
$ apt search 686-smp-pae
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
linux-headers-4.4.10-antix.1-686-smp-pae/jessie,now 4.4.10-antix.1-686-smp-pae-3 i386 [installed]
  Linux kernel headers for 4.4.10-antix.1-686-smp-pae on i386

linux-headers-4.4.10-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae/jessie 4.4.10-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae-3 i386
  Linux kernel headers for 4.4.10-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae on i386

linux-headers-4.6.2-antix.1-686-smp-pae/jessie,now 4.6.2-antix.1-686-smp-pae-3 i386 [installed]
  Linux kernel headers for 4.6.2-antix.1-686-smp-pae on i386

linux-headers-4.6.2-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae/jessie 4.6.2-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae-3 i386
  Linux kernel headers for 4.6.2-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae on i386

linux-image-4.4.10-antix.1-686-smp-pae/jessie,now 4.4.10-antix.1-686-smp-pae-3 i386 [installed]
  Linux kernel, version 4.4.10-antix.1-686-smp-pae

linux-image-4.4.10-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae/jessie 4.4.10-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae-3 i386
  Linux kernel, version 4.4.10-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae

linux-image-4.6.2-antix.1-686-smp-pae/jessie,now 4.6.2-antix.1-686-smp-pae-3 i386 [installed]
  Linux kernel, version 4.6.2-antix.1-686-smp-pae

linux-image-4.6.2-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae/jessie 4.6.2-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae-3 i386
  Linux kernel, version 4.6.2-gnu-antix.1-686-smp-pae

harry@biker:~
$ inxi -S
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 4.6.2-antix.1-686-smp-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-15-V_386-full Killah P 30 June 2015
harry@biker:~
$ 

Here is why I need pae

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$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16314516     899164   15415352      65552      50592     528904
-/+ buffers/cache:     319668   15994848
Swap:      4095996          0    4095996
It is 32 bit because this hard drive came out of my broken IBM Z60M laptop. Which was a 1.2 ghz single core Pentium M cpu laptop.
Dumpster retired now.
anticapitalista
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#8
roky - there is no pae version of 4.8 (yet)
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hobbyist7890
Joined: 24 Apr 2016
#9
Hi again. I have trouble getting permission to post here sometimes.

I did have the testing repo with my initial problem so I updated to sid still with the same problem.

The 4.8.0 antix-sid.1 kernel seems to install and grub seems to go into the partition without a problem.
I actually go back to debian wheezy to update-grub for my master bootloader and that grub is older than antix16.

OK, that posted. Here are more messages when the kernel gets lost:

Decompressing Linux...
Booting the Kernel...
/scripts/init-top/udev: line 14: can't create /sys/kernel/uevent_helper: permission denied
/dev/sda9: clean
run-init: opening console: no such file or directory
Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init
run-init: opening console: no such file or directory
No init found. Try passing init=bootarg
BusyBox built in shell
(initramfs)

I tried to update to the linux-image-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp on two different computers and both failed.
They were both old Intel Irongate core i3 systems without uefi.
They both had Debian Wheezy installed making the master Grub menu to sda instead of antiX.
If I am the only person with a problem then I would blame the old Debian Grub config.
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hobbyist7890
Joined: 24 Apr 2016
#10
I see nothing obvious in my Wheezy grub.cfg and now suspect the kernel.
Here is important part of grub.cfg:

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menuentry"AntiX-16 GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp (on /dev/sda9)" --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,msdos9'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
      search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos9 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos9 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos9 --hint='hd0,msdos9'  19f1cf50-c765-4b6e-86b0-5c86ba5f58a2
    else
      search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 19f1cf50-c765-4b6e-86b0-5c86ba5f58a2
    fi
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp root=UUID=19f1cf50-c765-4b6e-86b0-5c86ba5f58a2 ro quiet
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
}
menuentry"AntiX-16 GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp (on /dev/sda9)" --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,msdos9'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
      search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos9 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos9 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos9 --hint='hd0,msdos9'  19f1cf50-c765-4b6e-86b0-5c86ba5f58a2
    else
      search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 19f1cf50-c765-4b6e-86b0-5c86ba5f58a2
    fi
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp root=UUID=19f1cf50-c765-4b6e-86b0-5c86ba5f58a2 ro quiet
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
}
Here is a listing from my antiX /boot directory:

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##   182183 Jun 15 07:41 config-4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
##   163016 Oct  7 05:53 config-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
## 17716264 Sep 30 12:26 initrd.img-4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
## 17887038 Oct 10 14:47 initrd.img-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
##  3215054 Jun 15 07:41 System.map-4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
##  2991547 Oct  7 05:53 System.map-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
##  4271568 Jun 15 07:41 vmlinuz-4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
##  4326176 Oct  7 05:53 vmlinuz-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
Everything looks like Grub should be finding my kernel and the initrd.img without trouble.
I suspect the kernel config. The config for 4.6.2 and 4.8.0 seem very different.
I compared the two kernels using

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 diff config-4.6.2-* config-4.8.0-* 
and see where many changes have been made.
This is just a theory except everything worked with 4.6.2 and not with 4.8.0 or maybe this is just my setup.
I can work around this problem for now just hope nobody else has the same problem.

P.S. Is there really supposed to by a linux-firmware-image-4.8.0-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp ???
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#11
anticapitalista wrote:roky - there is no pae version of 4.8 (yet)
Ok. Just checking for PBKAU on my end is all. No hurry. No worries. __{{emoticon}}__
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hobbyist7890
Joined: 24 Apr 2016
#12
I just tried the new kernel and failed again. I tried the linux-image-4.8.1-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp and had the same problem as with the 4.8.0-antix-sid kernel.

I then removed the 4.8.1 and left the 4.6.2 kernel I have been using. So I tried the older kernel linux-image-4.4.10-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp and everything works normally. There must be something different about the 4.8.0 and the 4.8.1 kernels causing them to fail to boot on my system.

I am now running from the sid repos. I prefer to begin with the antix core iso from Feb because I like the minimalism and haven't had any other problems.

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System:    Host: antiX1 Kernel: 4.4.10-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A
           Distro: antiX-16-a1-xorg-sid_x64-core  19 February 2016
Machine:   Mobo: Dell model: 0G939P v: A08 Bios: Dell v: A08 date: 07/22/2010
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i3 M 370 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 2399 MHz 1: 933 MHz 2: 933 MHz 3: 1333 MHz 4: 1466 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 136x39
Audio:     Card Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.10-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:21:63:b6:b7:72
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: f0:4d:a2:55:ce:f9
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (3.0% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 25G used: 3.6G (16%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /-etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
           deb http://antix.daveserver.info/sid sid main nosystemd arch=amd64
           Active apt sources in file: /-etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
Info:      Processes: 148 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 299.2/3753.9MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.31 
I have the same problem on my Dell laptop and my Sony AIO. My previous info was about the Sony.
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masinick
Joined: 26 Apr 2008
#13
I wonder if the bug that Andrew Morton added in very late - that Torvalds was fuming about has anything to do with the issues we've encountered?

In any case, I'd recommend looking at the patch tree for 4.8 subsequent to the release to make sure our kernel doesn't have the buggy hack that was entered just before release and created issues.

See this article for details:
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url was:"http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-4-8-brings-pi-surface-support-but-linus-torvalds-fumes-over-kernel-killing-bug/"
linktext was:"http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-4-8- ... lling-bug/"
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masinick
Joined: 26 Apr 2008
#14
See
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.8.1"
linktext was:"https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel ... eLog-4.8.1"
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anticapitalista
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#15
4.8.1 kernels now available.