topic title: why are ads blocked in Antix?
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Posts: 1,445
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#16
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=requestpolicy"
linktext was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... uestpolicy"
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^--- Below, I'm describing the first listed extension"RequestPolicy".
FWIW, from that search results page, I am also using the"Google Privacy" extension.
Those other extensions shown in search results,"RPContinued" its code is way too conflated/convoluted IMO (ref: github)...
...and Policeman, although IMO it might be a superior solution, its configuration is more fiddly than RP.
Browser restart is required following installation of the RP extension.
You'll be presented with a one-time prefs dialog, with only the"International" whitelist ticked by default.
I tick 'em all; it's a comparatively short list (and you'll have opportunity to remove any individual rule(s) later)
A l'il"flag on a flagpole" RP icon is displayed to browser toolbar (and/or context menu).
While surfing, a click on the icon displays a menu, like so:
'scuse the ugly screencaps ~~ I'm posting from winXP at the moment.
That screenshot above is for this (current forum page) and
until/unless you click"cgstatic.com" and create a rule allowing freeforums.org --} cgstatic.com
the forum pages will be"broken", due to RP prohibiting requests for the"3rd party hosted" css stylesheets (hosted on cgstatic server)
You'll also notice (current forum page)"lotta other blocked requests". Wheeeee, newrelic, crowdreport, sharethis...
A"flyout" is displayed for each 3rd-party domain destination.
From the flyout you can choose to add a temporary, or permanent, permitting (or later revoking) rule.
After changing a rule, you must F5 refresh the page for changes to take effect.
* Also, when adding a prohibit rule, bear in mind RP doesn't deal with clearing cache nor cleaning previously-set cookies.
In this example (freeforums.org), click"cgstatic.com" and, from the flyout choose the Allow (permanent) option.
Done.
This particular one-time rulesetting operation yields perennial ad-free surfing of freeforums.org -hosted forums (not just antix. forum).
YMMV. With the blocking in effect, freeforums.org pages load noticeably faster for me.
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Chapter 2 (or something)
Clicking the"Show request Log" RP menu item will open a resizeable pane in the lower portion of the browser window
where you can inspect each asset, each request, attempted by the page you're currently surfing.
Painting"all that detail" is a bit of a chore for the browser (bogs page loading speed a bit), so I advise against keeping pane open.
After recommending use of RP to many folks, across a span of several years, I'm braced to hear
"yeah but allapages is broken" along with"WTF is 'infolinks'? I have no clue what to block, what to allow".
Common sense? Open a new browser tab. Type infolinks.com into addressbar. You decide (you get to decide, you're forced to decide).
Rule of thumb:
unless it's a fontfile or css stylesheet or js being retrieved from a CDN server... most 3rd party requests represent trackers/stats/ads
Although RP has ability to enforce stricter, more-granular"per full hostname" (vs per"base domain") rule setting,
I generally avoid (and don't recommend) that approach because, yes, it's"too damn fiddly".
Allow (or block) a7dfhane-west.cloudflare.com today ...and tomorrow, or later today due to load-balancing
you'll be dealing with requests to g46hlk-north.cloudflare.com instead.
The number of different sites we each visit is remarkably limited. One-time rules setup for a site you often visit is probably well worthwhile.
For a site you've never visited before, and you're too busy / don't care to setup rules, you're free to click the"Temporarily allow all from..." menu item.
I've known several people who are happy to"allow all" most of the time, and only bother to setup rules for sites
where pages are syrupy slow to load due to excessive ad injections.
Further flexibility is possible via custom rules creation. I might (and, vis this screencap, apparently have)
click"Preferences" in RP menu and tweak/add more rules, more granular rules, but I seldom need to (nor bother to) do so.
Geez! Above, I typed"seldom" ~~ looking at my own screencap and wondering"WTH is 163.com? How/why did I add that rule?"
I'm guessing it's an expired domain which has been re-registered ~~ AFAICT, not a site I'd care to ever visit.
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RP alone isn't a silver bullet. Its default-deny construct, along with an ability to only selectively
permanently whitelist (vs permanently blacklist) destination domains... falls short.
However, RP"plays well with" other browser extensions. In the past, I've run it flawlessly alongside
AdblockEdge (now defunct), Ghostery (now spyware, post v4.x), Policeman, uBlockOrigin, etc.
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=requestpolicy"
linktext was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... uestpolicy"
====================================
^--- Below, I'm describing the first listed extension"RequestPolicy".
FWIW, from that search results page, I am also using the"Google Privacy" extension.
Those other extensions shown in search results,"RPContinued" its code is way too conflated/convoluted IMO (ref: github)...
...and Policeman, although IMO it might be a superior solution, its configuration is more fiddly than RP.
Browser restart is required following installation of the RP extension.
You'll be presented with a one-time prefs dialog, with only the"International" whitelist ticked by default.
I tick 'em all; it's a comparatively short list (and you'll have opportunity to remove any individual rule(s) later)
A l'il"flag on a flagpole" RP icon is displayed to browser toolbar (and/or context menu).
While surfing, a click on the icon displays a menu, like so:
'scuse the ugly screencaps ~~ I'm posting from winXP at the moment.
That screenshot above is for this (current forum page) and
until/unless you click"cgstatic.com" and create a rule allowing freeforums.org --} cgstatic.com
the forum pages will be"broken", due to RP prohibiting requests for the"3rd party hosted" css stylesheets (hosted on cgstatic server)
You'll also notice (current forum page)"lotta other blocked requests". Wheeeee, newrelic, crowdreport, sharethis...
A"flyout" is displayed for each 3rd-party domain destination.
From the flyout you can choose to add a temporary, or permanent, permitting (or later revoking) rule.
After changing a rule, you must F5 refresh the page for changes to take effect.
* Also, when adding a prohibit rule, bear in mind RP doesn't deal with clearing cache nor cleaning previously-set cookies.
In this example (freeforums.org), click"cgstatic.com" and, from the flyout choose the Allow (permanent) option.
Done.
This particular one-time rulesetting operation yields perennial ad-free surfing of freeforums.org -hosted forums (not just antix. forum).
YMMV. With the blocking in effect, freeforums.org pages load noticeably faster for me.
===================
Chapter 2 (or something)
Clicking the"Show request Log" RP menu item will open a resizeable pane in the lower portion of the browser window
where you can inspect each asset, each request, attempted by the page you're currently surfing.
Painting"all that detail" is a bit of a chore for the browser (bogs page loading speed a bit), so I advise against keeping pane open.
After recommending use of RP to many folks, across a span of several years, I'm braced to hear
"yeah but allapages is broken" along with"WTF is 'infolinks'? I have no clue what to block, what to allow".
Common sense? Open a new browser tab. Type infolinks.com into addressbar. You decide (you get to decide, you're forced to decide).
Rule of thumb:
unless it's a fontfile or css stylesheet or js being retrieved from a CDN server... most 3rd party requests represent trackers/stats/ads
Although RP has ability to enforce stricter, more-granular"per full hostname" (vs per"base domain") rule setting,
I generally avoid (and don't recommend) that approach because, yes, it's"too damn fiddly".
Allow (or block) a7dfhane-west.cloudflare.com today ...and tomorrow, or later today due to load-balancing
you'll be dealing with requests to g46hlk-north.cloudflare.com instead.
The number of different sites we each visit is remarkably limited. One-time rules setup for a site you often visit is probably well worthwhile.
For a site you've never visited before, and you're too busy / don't care to setup rules, you're free to click the"Temporarily allow all from..." menu item.
I've known several people who are happy to"allow all" most of the time, and only bother to setup rules for sites
where pages are syrupy slow to load due to excessive ad injections.
Further flexibility is possible via custom rules creation. I might (and, vis this screencap, apparently have)
click"Preferences" in RP menu and tweak/add more rules, more granular rules, but I seldom need to (nor bother to) do so.
Geez! Above, I typed"seldom" ~~ looking at my own screencap and wondering"WTH is 163.com? How/why did I add that rule?"
I'm guessing it's an expired domain which has been re-registered ~~ AFAICT, not a site I'd care to ever visit.
===================
RP alone isn't a silver bullet. Its default-deny construct, along with an ability to only selectively
permanently whitelist (vs permanently blacklist) destination domains... falls short.
However, RP"plays well with" other browser extensions. In the past, I've run it flawlessly alongside
AdblockEdge (now defunct), Ghostery (now spyware, post v4.x), Policeman, uBlockOrigin, etc.
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Posts: 29
- Joined: 23 Aug 2015
#17
To turn off default AD-BLOCKER you have to check the Unblock box in Contol Centre - Network -Adblock. That was a crazy search.
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Posts: 148
- Joined: 29 Jun 2017
#18
this is a great feature, id consider adding the list to fig os. if youtube stopped working id probably reenable enough to get youtube playing again.
fun fact: olpc blocked ads in some countries where there were laws protecting children from getting too many ads online. they actually regulate how many ads children can be subjected to! thats too much regulation for my taste, but at least i like what theyre doing with it.
as far as browser or hosts, i agree with skidoo on whats better usability wise, but from a practical standpoint id rather every browser benefit. otoh there are some adservers that are quite tedious or impossible to block from hosts, with dynamic urls that hosts cant address, or just a very large and annoying quantity of subdomains.
fun fact: olpc blocked ads in some countries where there were laws protecting children from getting too many ads online. they actually regulate how many ads children can be subjected to! thats too much regulation for my taste, but at least i like what theyre doing with it.
as far as browser or hosts, i agree with skidoo on whats better usability wise, but from a practical standpoint id rather every browser benefit. otoh there are some adservers that are quite tedious or impossible to block from hosts, with dynamic urls that hosts cant address, or just a very large and annoying quantity of subdomains.
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Posts: 29
- Joined: 23 Aug 2015
#19
This forum, now that I haveĀ unchecked the unblock box, has a very CAPTALISTIC look to it. Irony.
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Posts: 1,308
- Joined: 31 Aug 2009
#20
Capitalism: no matter how small and cheap and crappy something is, someone will find a way to make it smaller, cheaper, and crappier.Kogomo wrote: This forum, now that I haveĀ unchecked the unblock box, has a very CAPTALISTIC look to it. Irony.
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Posts: 1,445
- Joined: 09 Feb 2012
#21
since my december post, Ghostery got"acquired" by a (the) huge eurocapitalist entity, Mozilla invested $$$ and partnered with 'em... and has announced plans to integrate that shi (ghostery telemetry platform) as a native, in-browser component. Dontchaknow they're gonna provide"ActivityStream" relevance, and savings and discounts and coupons when you're shopping, and press the amazon button for ya when you're running low on milk and... RAINBOWS!
I'll spare y'all from reading a rant containing"all the gory details" (link citations/proof) and just mentionCapitalism:
since my december post, Ghostery got"acquired" by a (the) huge eurocapitalist entity, Mozilla invested $$$ and partnered with 'em... and has announced plans to integrate that shi (ghostery telemetry platform) as a native, in-browser component. Dontchaknow they're gonna provide"ActivityStream" relevance, and savings and discounts and coupons when you're shopping, and press the amazon button for ya when you're running low on milk and... RAINBOWS!