topic title: Upgrade to mx15 (SOLVED)
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#1
I have mx14 on an old laptop, and I would like to know is there a way to upgrade it to mx15 without losing all my settings and installed programs... thanks.. __{{emoticon}}__
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chrispop99
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
#2
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may help you.

Essentially the answer is that there is no easy way to convert MX14 to MX15.

However, MX14 is still supported, and if you really want MX15, a re-install is not a lengthy process.

Chris
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
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may help you.

Essentially the answer is that there is no easy way to convert MX14 to MX15.

However, MX14 is still supported, and if you really want MX15, a re-install is not a lengthy process.

Chris
Thanks Chris,
MX14 is fine and I have no issues with it, however I installed mx15 for my cousin and I did like a few things that mx 15 had that mx14 did not have ...
Maybe there is a way to get those things I like installed in mx14? If so that would be great...
I like when you choose desktop setting in mx15 that you can do more with it then the mx14 settings, I found it was very easy to point to a wallpaper folder in mx15 and rotate desktop wallpaper every 30 minutes, I tried in mx14 to do the same and failed to get it working...
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Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#4
Seems unlikely to work to me, b/c new libraries and other dependencies are often involved.

Another possibility: this command from kmathern will give you a file in your /Home folder with a list of all installed applications except kernels and their headers:

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$ dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{ print $2 }' | grep -v -e ^lib -e -dev$ -e linux-image -e linux-headers | awk '{print $1,"install"}' > apps_installed.txt
It's not bad work to go through it (using your MX-14 menu as a guide when necessary) to produce a list of what you want to reinstall. Then you can simply paste that into a root terminal to reinstall after MX-15 is up:

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 sudo apt-get install <copied and pasted from your list>
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#5
Jerry wrote:Seems unlikely to work to me, b/c new libraries and other dependencies are often involved.

Another possibility: this command from kmathern will give you a file in your /Home folder with a list of all installed applications except kernels and their headers:

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$ dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{ print $2 }' | grep -v -e ^lib -e -dev$ -e linux-image -e linux-headers | awk '{print $1,"install"}' > apps_installed.txt
It's not bad work to go through it (using your MX-14 menu as a guide when necessary) to produce a list of what you want to reinstall. Then you can simply paste that into a root terminal to reinstall after MX-15 is up:

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 sudo apt-get install <copied and pasted from your list>
My only problem is the age of the laptop makes it rough to get things done, the laptop does not boot from usb sticks, and all it has is a cdrom drive to boot from... mx-15 is no longer able to fit on a cdrom since is it over a gig in size, where mx14 fits on a cdrom, that is why I was hoping you could upgrade to mx-15 online... __{{emoticon}}__
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#6
what you need is plop boot manager, which is what I use to boot usb sticks on machines that don't support usb boot. Here's a link.


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the zip file contains a iso image that you can burn to cd (4.7mb, small) or you can use a .img for a floppy disk (I actually use a floppy image on my old sony laptop).
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#7
dolphin_oracle wrote:what you need is plop boot manager, which is what I use to boot usb sticks on machines that don't support usb boot. Here's a link.


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the zip file contains a iso image that you can burn to cd (4.7mb, small) or you can use a .img for a floppy disk (I actually use a floppy image on my old sony laptop).
Great minds think alike they say, I dug out my plop boot cdrom last night and it is on my mbr, and I am putting mx15 on my old 4gig usb chip now... __{{emoticon}}__
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#8
Well I have failed twice now, for some reason both yumi and universal from pendrive linux have both failed me, i choose Antix in the list and go to the folder where mx-14 and 15 are located, and it can not find them... I tried manually inserting the iso names, but they refuse to boot... Any clues how to get antix mx-15 onto a usb stick using windows 7???
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chrispop99
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
#9
rjm65 wrote:Well I have failed twice now, for some reason both yumi and universal from pendrive linux have both failed me, i choose Antix in the list and go to the folder where mx-14 and 15 are located, and it can not find them... I tried manually inserting the iso names, but they refuse to boot... Any clues how to get antix mx-15 onto a usb stick using windows 7???
Why not use your MX14 machine to create the USB?

Chris
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#10
chrispop99 wrote:
rjm65 wrote:Well I have failed twice now, for some reason both yumi and universal from pendrive linux have both failed me, i choose Antix in the list and go to the folder where mx-14 and 15 are located, and it can not find them... I tried manually inserting the iso names, but they refuse to boot... Any clues how to get antix mx-15 onto a usb stick using windows 7???
Why not use your MX14 machine to create the USB?

Chris
I can't since i wiped it out yesterday, besides I always make my linux usb chips in windows...
for some reason antix just won't work... I tried 4 different pen drive installers now all get the same error...
the ubuntu based distros all work on usb only antix is failing, because the installers are not finding the mx-15 and 14 iso's to be valid antix filenames...
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#11
use rufus, as the mx-15 instructions page says.

universal and yumi (and unetbootin for windows for that matter) do not support the version of syslinux on mx-15 and the coming antiX 16. rufus does, and is a much better app.

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2. If you want to create a USB on a Windows base, we suggest you use Rufus, which supports our bootloader.

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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#12
dolphin_oracle wrote:use rufus, as the mx-15 instructions page says.

universal and yumi (and unetbootin for windows for that matter) do not support the version of syslinux on mx-15 and the coming antiX 16. rufus does, and is a much better app.

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2. If you want to create a USB on a Windows base, we suggest you use Rufus, which supports our bootloader.

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I have rufus i was going to try that next..
I knew there was something going on when the others could not find the filename for the mx iso's...
thanks dolphin ... __{{emoticon}}__
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#13
Rufus in iso mode works somewhat, I get to the first screen where i can choose pae or non pae for mx-15 live , however after i choose pae and or non pae and enter it loads the kernel and locks...
I made in rufus using iso mode and it said it had to download files and such which i let it download..
I am now trying to redo in the other mode called DD will let you know if that works or not...
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#14
Ok everything worked finally, and I am booted live in mx-15...
I tried to run gparted to prepare my partitions and it is asking for a password does anyone know what the password is for live mx-15???
Thanks... __{{emoticon}}__

EDIT: Found the password on the forum, install is proceeding.. __{{emoticon}}__
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Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#15
There is a link to the passwords on the Welcome and they are in the Users Manual:

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