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Sure smells like, oh what is that word that starts with f and contains 7 letters, oh yea, I mean freedom, to me.

Its a lot worse than just that.

Its sad to say, but anymore, in my view, the police are as bad as the criminals, maybe worse, because there is nobody you can call to save you from them.

Hi Guys,

Are either of you familiar with The Zeitgeist Movement?

Hasta luego, Michael.

I am, but don't see much here about it here in Texas.

There was one place I rode through years ago on my motorcycle. But it was after they (the govt) cleared them out
and locked them up.


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It was a Ghost encampment when I rode through but pretty as hell.


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rokytnji wrote:I am, but don't see much here about it here in Texas.

There was one place I rode through years ago on my motorcycle. But it was after they (the govt) cleared them out
and locked them up.


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Hi roky,

I didn't see anything about the zeitgeist movement on that page. So, to make sure we're on the same channel, the following is what I was referring to. They have some very eye opening documentaries that can be downloaded.


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cuscotravelservices wrote:

rokytnji wrote:I am, but don't see much here about it here in Texas.

There was one place I rode through years ago on my motorcycle. But it was after they (the govt) cleared them out
and locked them up.


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Hi roky,

I didn't see anything about the zeitgeist movement on that page. So, to make sure we're on the same channel, the following is what I was referring to. They have some very eye opening documentaries that can be downloaded.


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today. So with tongue in cheek. I'd figure I'd post about some real time revolutionaries I knew about in my neck of the desert.
And what happened to them. They killed one like in a old west posse chase with Texas rangers.

Two other members of the group, Richard F. Keyes III and Mike Matson managed to slip away. Matson was shot dead by Texas Rangers two days later

Figured you guys never even heard of that.

cuscotravelservices wrote:Hi Guys,

Are either of you familiar with The Zeitgeist Movement?

Hasta luego, Michael.

Naaaaa, I'm pretty mellow. Just a cheapy computer nerd mostly. I'm not going to win any battle like that, so I avoid it.

How it that troubled machine? We haven't heard about it lately, so either its just sitting there doing its job every day, now, or has gone to the boneyard.

I got 3 different laptops running the antiX 14.4a successfully and only hit one glitch so far (gparted had trouble on one), but thats pretty good for an alpha release.

Are either of you familiar with The Zeitgeist Movement?

Ah, so defining a"movement:



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rokytnji wrote:
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today. So with tongue in cheek. I'd figure I'd post about some real time revolutionaries I knew about in my neck of the desert.
And what happened to them. They killed one like in a old west posse chase with Texas rangers.

Two other members of the group, Richard F. Keyes III and Mike Matson managed to slip away. Matson was shot dead by Texas Rangers two days later

Figured you guys never even heard of that.

I knew about the events at Waco but had never heard about what had happened in your neighbourhood.

All these things are interwoven in one way or another more or less.

I was analytical about things from a young age (about 8 or 9) but it has taken a long time for the pieces to fall into place to be better informed about various things.

At Sunday School (I should say Sunday Indoctrination), when I was 7 or 8 I was appalled (mortified ?, horrified? and whatever other suitable adjectives could be applied) to read and learn about the"crucifixion of Jesus Christ".

I can remember discussing the existence of God with my father when I was 11, I think, and of course he had no answer as to where God came from. In the same year, another guy and I caused quite some consternation at school when raising questions about the truth of what is in the bible and the teachings of same during a"Religious Instruction" class. It is unfortunate to see that the schools are still being used as a conduit for religious indoctrination.

In the same year I think, I was reading a book about King Henry VIII and his 6 wives (unfortunate souls). I can't remember what sparked the conversation or comment but, silently inside, I was astounded that my Father could be proud of having british heritage after I had been reading about the barbaric and injust behaviours of these people.

It was the same year also, I think, that I really become aware of the ANZACS and the conflicts and horrors they endured at Gallipoli. Knowing what I know now and how all these problems are interwoven makes it all the more sickening.

thriftee wrote:How it that troubled machine? We haven't heard about it lately, so either its just sitting there doing its job every day, now, or has gone to the boneyard.

I got 3 different laptops running the antiX 14.4a successfully and only hit one glitch so far (gparted had trouble on one), but thats pretty good for an alpha release.

I'm still working at it.

To reduce the amount of translating required for Spanish, I've found and installed equivalently functional applications. Still got a fair amount of translation to do though.

I'll catch up with you on the OpenBox topic.

It is unfortuante to see that the schools are still being used as a conduit for religious indoctrination.

We need to address that matter too, so here goes:

In the same year I think, I was reading a book about King Henry VIII and his 6 wives (unfortunate souls). I can't remember what sparked the conversation or comment but, silently inside, I was astounded that my Father could be proud of having british heritage after I had been reading about the barbaric and injust behaviours of these people.

To begin with Henry VIII was not"British"; he was an"English" monarch of"Welsh" descent. Britian didn't exist until the act of Union when the Scottish King James became the first king of Britain.

Comparatively Henry VIII was small potatoes. What about the way Charlemagne lined up 4,500 Saxons, ordered them to convert to Christianity and then executed them all? And then people wonder why the Vikings later attacked monstareries, when they were simply defending themselves against the Christian butchers.

The Massacre of Verden, Bloodbath of Verden, or Bloody Verdict of Verden (German Blutgericht von Verden) was a massacre of 4,500 captive Saxons in October 782. During the Saxon Wars, the Saxons rebelled against Charlemagne's invasion and subsequent attempts to christianize them from their native Germanic paganism. The massacre is recorded as having occurred in what is now Verden in Lower Saxony, Germany.

Of course, then we have the things the Christians did to the American Natives. How many were burned at the stake in order to quench the Chritsian thirst for blood? How could anybody, by your way of thinking, be proud of their Christian heritage?


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Thinking about it further, as we humans are incredibly efficient killing machines, how can you be proud of your human heritage? Have you considered becoming a frog, or maybe a butterfly?

I remember The Republic of Texas story. The Federals don't like it when people want to be truly free. This administration learned to use some of the tactics to get land were water"might" be, trying to claim as"public lands" property legally sold and purchased by farmers and cattlemen.