Hi all...

I heard about your distro over at Phoronix...


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and thought I would give it a try, as I am looking for a lightweight distro to use with older systems. __{{emoticon}}__

I've noticed that Iceweasel, whether running the OS live or installed on the hard drive, is able to bring up some sites but not others, including this forum, (I'm writing this using my laptop which runs Ubuntu.) eBay is one of the sites it won't bring up so I opened a terminal and pinged eBay. It only gave one line and stopped. Whereas, when I pinged a site that does work, such as Google, I received a steady flow of readings.

This tells me Iceweasel is not the problem but that something is wrong in the OS. Can someone help me diagnose and fix this?

Thank you! __{{emoticon}}__

As you say, this is a network problem. How is your antiX computer connected to the internet? One possible cause for this problem is if the computer is connected through a router that has restrictions enabled to make it child-safe. IOW, perhaps the router is intentionally blocking sites. Normally computers get their internet connection via DHCP which means the router (or modem) you are connected to provides the computer with an internet address and information about the gateway and DNS servers.

Since you can connect to some sites but not others, the problem is likely in your network (or network configuration) and not in the computer or the OS. If you have more than one computer then an easy way to track down the cause of the problem is to just swap one computer for the other. This will let you quickly see if the problem is associated with the computer or with the network connection.

BTW: neither
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nor antix.freeforums.org respond to pings although I can browse both sites. Since pings can be used for DoS attacks many sites no longer respond to ICMP echo requests. For example, see:
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I am unable to replicate these symptoms. Using antiX-13-Full live and antiX-13.1-Full installed both ebay and the antiX forum display as expected in Iceweasel.

Using antiX-13.1, a ping to the freeforums.org (antiX host site) works as expected. A ping to eBay returns only a single line. Using TinyCore to ping eBay gives an identical result which suggests eBay does not respond to pings.

Two ideas

• As you indicate the problem is present when running both live and installed modes, did you verify that the md5sum for the downloaded ISO was valid i.e. a check for corruption of the download. This will rule out corruption as a potential source of an issue that common to both modes.
• In the last few days the antiX forum has been uncontactable for short periods. Perhaps your failed attempts were made during one of these periods.

This reply post is being made using Iceweasel directly to your topic in the antiX forum via Iceweasel.

I had a similar problem with my ISP's router. It did not recognize antix OS as a trusted device, that limited the service. After making the corrections with the router, I had full access to the internet.

One way to check if it is a trusted device, try to access your router via Iceweasel. If it denies access, it's most likely this problem.

ardvark,

You and I have similar issues. What you are probably finding is that big main sites like yahoo.com or google.com work but not subdomains like sports.yahoo.com or mail.google.com, or perhaps even smaller sites on shared servers.

At any rate, you can try setting your DNS servers by hand instead of whatever your router supplies as a default. In WiCD this is easy. Just go into preferences, and input 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as the global dns servers. Then for each of your connections with the issue, simple check static dns and global dns in the connection properties and wicd will override the dns povided by your router.

I've traced my problem back to the dsl router that the provider (ATT) gave me. antix handles the connection at work without any trouble. And yes, windows and ubuntu handle the weird connection at home just fine, but antix needs a little help.

i allude to this issue in this video:

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good luck.

d.o.

Hi all...

The checksum passed just fine and I'm able to access the modem/router Qwest gave me when I first received my DSL service.

I'm not at all interested in tinkering with any of the modem/router settings as every OS/computer I've connected to it has had no problems, only AntiX. I've also tried another Linux distro on the system in question and the internet connection was fine.

I'm sorry guys but I need something that works well out of the box with no glaring bugs (as well as lightweight.) Otherwise, I think AntiX is fairly decent. I really like the low memory footprint. __{{emoticon}}__

Regards...

Do what you like, but if you look at my post and video, you'll see how to do it WITHOUT changing your router settings. Its very simple and takes about 5 seconds to do.

***edit*** my post wasnt' clear. You change the dns servers on the antix box. the 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are google dns servers, free to the public and very fast. so fast that I changed them to my default everywhere.

@ ardvark
If you can't get on with Antix perhaps give Crunchbang a try, or even SliTaz.

aardvark...for future research, what sort of dsl modem did qwest give me. The device that gives me fits at home is a motorola dsl modem, model 2210.

thanks.

d.o.

dolphin_oracle wrote:aardvark...for future research, what sort of dsl modem did qwest give me. The device that gives me fits at home is a motorola dsl modem, model 2210.

Hi...

Mine is 3347. Where do I access the settings to enter the numbers you gave me? I'm not finding WICD at least in the most obvious places. __{{emoticon}}__

Also, I'm turning the system in question (an old eMachines T1090) into a legacy box running Windows 98 SE here shortly...with the intention of selling it. For the time being, I was using it to try out lightweight distros that I might use in the future to help those who have systems with very low resources and cannot afford to purchase Windows. I've already tried Lubuntu and Slitaz, which for different reasons, did not work. As far as the overall footprint on this system, AntiX has been the best so far. __{{emoticon}}__

Regards...

If yours works like mine, we get an additional layer of dns translation. the motorola I have does not present the isp's dns servers directly. It issues an interal IP address to my router, which then farms it out to the systems. I don't know what, but even hooking directly to the dsl modem doesn't let me access certain subdomains. Specifying a dns server in the wicd configuration for the individual connection works everywhere I go, so that's the solution I've stuck with.

Ubuntu and many many other distros use a service called networkmanager to run their connections, and the current networkmanager has a service called dnsmasq built into it that handles dns servers. If you look at /etc/resolv.conf on a ubuntu box you will find a loopback address to the dnsmasq service. I don't know if this service gives the other distros more resilence on the dns side or not, but its the only difference i've found so far on the dns lookup side between the big distros and antix.

Anyway its late and I'm babbling, but we now have confirmation of this issue on at least two different motorola dsl modems. Thanks for the info.

d.o.

Hi all...

Thank you all for your help!

@dolphin_oracle: Please see my edit above. __{{emoticon}}__

Regards...

misfire, tried to edit previous post...

wicd (assuming you have antix full installed) should be in the menu under internet. Its also in the antix control center on the network tab and connect wirelessly (wicd) button.

once there, go to the connection profile (either wired or wireless, whichever you are using) and edit the properties. You'll get a properties page where you can enter the dns settings for just that particular connection profile.

dolphin_oracle wrote:wicd (assuming you have antix full installed) should be in the menu under internet. Its also in the antix control center on the network tab and connect wirelessly (wicd) button.

once there, go to the connection profile (either wired or wireless, whichever you are using) and edit the properties. You'll get a properties page where you can enter the dns settings for just that particular connection profile.

Hi...

I received an error message telling me that no wireless devices were found. This is a desktop system with no wireless card.

Regards...