topic title: (solved)Installation on an external usb-stick (not live)
Posts: 850
fatmac
Joined: 26 Jul 2012
#16
The two things that I have found that may go wrong when trying to boot from USB.
The wrong partition is specified in the grub boot menu, (& fstab file).
The system needs longer to find the boot partition, (add rootdelay=9 to the grub boot line).
Posts: 156
caprea
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
#17
Thank you for answers.

This is the boot/grub/menu/list

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timeout 5
color cyan/blue white/blue
foreground ffffff
background 0639a1

gfxmenu /boot/grub/message

title  antiX at sda1, kernel 3.7.10-antix.5-486-smp
root   (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.7.10-antix.5-486-smp root=/dev/sda1 quiet
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.7.10-antix.5-486-smp
boot


and the fstab

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# Pluggable devices are handled by uDev, they are not in fstab
/dev/sda1 / auto defaults,noatime 1 1
/dev/sda2 swap swap sw,pri=1 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0622 0 0


Do I have to add" rootdelay=9" to the kernel-line in the boot/grub/menu.lst ?
Posts: 156
caprea
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
#18
This is the boot-folder from stick

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Strange ,there is no mem-test in boot/grub/menu.lst


I changed menu.lst like that

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Doesn't work

So I don't know how to go on.
Posts: 850
fatmac
Joined: 26 Jul 2012
#19
See if you can take out the hdd of the laptop, for checking the penrdive works, also check the bios for any other options pertaining to usb booting, like 'legacy'.

Edit: Your problem seems to be getting your laptop to see the pendrive as the first boot device.
Posts: 156
caprea
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
#20
Thank you for answer,fatmac.
There's allready no hdd in the laptop.It has a normal bios ,no uefi.
The bootorder seems to be ok, cause every live-stick boots on the laptop.

Unfortunately I can not try the stick with the normal installation on another pc ,cause my desktop-pc doesn't boot from usb.

I never dealed with plop ,would this maybe be an option to get the stick working on the laptop?
Posts: 1,062
Dave
Joined: 20 Jan 2010
#21
I do not have the ability at the moment to write up step by step a howto for installing extlinux to the mbr / boot partition. I am also not sure why grub does not work... but seeing how every live usb functions just fine, that would mean extlinux is known to work. So if it were me, I would try installing extlinux to the mbr of the installed stick.

I can give a more detailed howto later, but for the moment the best I can do is link you to the extlinux install doc @ syslinux.

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If you give it a read through it may give you a general idea of what will be done and understanding the steps I will write later may be easier to accomplish

Dave
Posts: 156
caprea
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
#22
Thank you Dave, I will look for this.
Posts: 325
male
Joined: 04 Nov 2011
#23
I doubt that there is grub on the stick.
around 6.39pm, the menu.lst a label and to 8.46pm she has a uuid.

Please click on the terminal output of

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fdisk -l -u -c
Maybe grub should be installed again...
Posts: 156
caprea
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
#24
Hello male,
she changed menu lst. to uuid by herself.

terminal without stick

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$ sudo fdisk -l -u -c
[sudo] password for helga: 
fdisk: Ungültige Option -- c

Disk /dev/sda: 80 GB, 80023749120 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders, total 156296385 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System 
/dev/sda1            2048    81913855    40957686   83  Linux
Warning: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2        81915496   156301311    37190475    f  Extended LBA
Warning: Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda5        81917952   112637951    15358140   83  Linux
Warning: Partition 5 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda7       112640000   152107007    19735852   83  Linux
Warning: Partition 7 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda6       152109056   156301311     2096482   82  Linux swap
Warning: Partition 6 does not end on cylinder boundary.
Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr2 read-write (Das Dateisystem ist nur lesbar).  /dev/sr2 has been opened read-only.
Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 512 bytes, but Linux says it is 2048 bytes.

terminal with stick

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$ sudo fdisk -l -u -c
[sudo] password for helga: 
fdisk: Ungültige Option -- c

Disk /dev/sda: 80 GB, 80023749120 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders, total 156296385 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System 
/dev/sda1            2048    81913855    40957686   83  Linux
Warning: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2        81915496   156301311    37190475    f  Extended LBA
Warning: Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda5        81917952   112637951    15358140   83  Linux
Warning: Partition 5 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda7       112640000   152107007    19735852   83  Linux
Warning: Partition 7 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda6       152109056   156301311     2096482   82  Linux swap
Warning: Partition 6 does not end on cylinder boundary.

Disk /dev/sdc: 15 GB, 15512878080 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1886 cylinders, total 30298590 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System 
/dev/sdc1   *           1    26050559    13028683   83  Linux
Warning: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdc2        26050560    30310399     2128612   82  Linux swap
Warning: Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr2 read-write (Das Dateisystem ist nur lesbar).  /dev/sr2 has been opened read-only.
Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 512 bytes, but Linux says it is 2048 bytes.
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male
Joined: 04 Nov 2011
#25
Guten Morgen!

The following commands are required to issue the grub antiX on to install the stick:
determine how the stick is, and what he has uuid

Example here is my stick sdb1

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# blkid -c /dev/null -o list
device           fs_type  label     mount point          UUID
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
/dev/sda1        ext4               (not mounted)        9b306f0f-ed25-46e5-9d1b-fede7cc26389
/dev/sda5        ext4     home      (not mounted)        386e5d76-fc3c-430f-9a31-c97cf64d1b20
/dev/sda6        swap               <swap>               016d8cde-618e-4236-9395-1a3b36fe3d1a
/dev/sda7        ext4               /                    23936e83-d30f-40f9-a136-57059cc5190a
/dev/sda8        vfat     DATEN     /media/DATEN         F300-DCE2
/dev/sda9        ext4               (not mounted)        207aacef-dca6-4a2f-88e8-d9def373ecc3
/dev/sda10       ext4               (not mounted)        9309d5f1-6cee-468a-8597-8ecce6141608
/dev/sdb1        vfat               (not mounted)        A234-8808
then

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# mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/temp
# mkdir -p /mnt/temp/boot/grub
# cp /boot/grub/*stage* /mnt/temp/boot/grub
# echo '(hd0) /dev/sdb' > /mnt/temp/boot/grub/device.map
# grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/temp /dev/sdb
Installation finished. No error reported.
This is the contents of the device map /mnt/temp/boot/grub/device.map.
Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.

(hd0) /dev/sdb
# umount /mnt/temp
BUT
your stick

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/dev/sdc1   *           1    26050559    13028683   83  Linux
my stick

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/dev/sdb1   *        2048      503807      250880    6  FAT16
(do not let FAT16 irritate)

A flash memory requires an alignment. With a usb stick is the more necessary because of the system so and so even slow down.
So, you've got to do it again with gparted.
"Align to 1MiB" recommend ext2 or 3

After installation, check with previously determined blkid:
-fstab
-menu.lst
-device.map

good luck __{{emoticon}}__
Posts: 156
caprea
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
#26
@male ,thank you for answer.
OK,I tried this.I had to change a little bit,and I dont know if everything worked Ok,but inthe end there was standing:Installationfinished.No error........
But the result was, that during boot there was standing on black screen in white letters"Grub" and a blinking cursor.Strange.

Then I tried to install grub as chroot.That really changed menu.lst.There was now mem-test .But no success during boot:operating system not found.

I tried plop,but plop was a flop.
I made a super-grub-disk from this side
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url was:"http://www.supergrubdisk.org/"
linktext was:"http://www.supergrubdisk.org/"
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.
With this cd I could finally boot the system on the stick,after enabling floppys.

Installing est-linux to the mbr would have been the solution,I think
But after all I've now seen that the system on the usb-stick is much slower than the live-usb,especially the internet-speed.So I made a snapshot of my running antix-system and from this a live-usb.This worked really good ,it's cool, and I'm feeling very comfortable with this solution.
That's the story.
Thank you for help.
Posts: 156
caprea
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
#27
OK,tried again and installing extlinux to the mbr did the trick,thanks for advice,Dave.
This is a good page,if someone else is having also problems with his usb-stick.

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But in MX14 and I think in antix too,you don't have to add any line to /boot/extlinux.conf.Just make an update-extlinux.