I know this is non-linux forum, but there is no"general" linux discussion forum. So here it goes. TinyME uses openbox and it looks very similar to fluxbox and blackbox. I have tried to research it, but I really couldn't find anything. One thing I was interested in was that apps had icons in the windows - very similar to xfce. I tried to see if this feature was available in fluxbox, but came up short. Any links or experience you could share on the openbox vs. fluxbox topic? Thanks.
john
topic title: openbox
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#2
I switched over to openbox a couple of weeks after installing Antix. It's a lot cleaner than fluxbox and"feels" more modern. It's not clear what you mean by"research"; either way, here's a couple of relevant links:
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< There's an Openbox section @ kmandla's blog, he's one of the most devoted openbox users i've seen __{{emoticon}}__
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< the openbox wiki for Arch linux (obviously, replace pacman with apt-get, but you'll get the hang of it anyway)
and the quintessential screenshot :
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< openbox plus xcompmgr and pypanel [rather old one, i'll upload a recent one when i get home]
The only thing that's missing in openbox is a built-in window tiler. Something that can be accommodated with
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grab one of the .debs, dpkg -i to install, and then type tile in a commandline to tile your windows (and obviously set a corresponding keyboard shortcut for it)
To make theme configuration easier,
apt-get obconf
and take it from there.
P.S. For a basic comparison of *box window managers check
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[update]
as the original author of this says"Openbox + Pypanel + Onyx Theme + NeutroniumClassic Theme + Bridge Background + Tweaking"
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< There's an Openbox section @ kmandla's blog, he's one of the most devoted openbox users i've seen __{{emoticon}}__
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< the openbox wiki for Arch linux (obviously, replace pacman with apt-get, but you'll get the hang of it anyway)
and the quintessential screenshot :
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< openbox plus xcompmgr and pypanel [rather old one, i'll upload a recent one when i get home]
The only thing that's missing in openbox is a built-in window tiler. Something that can be accommodated with
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url was:"http://ftp.unixdev.net/pub/debian-udev/pool/main/t/tile/"
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grab one of the .debs, dpkg -i to install, and then type tile in a commandline to tile your windows (and obviously set a corresponding keyboard shortcut for it)
To make theme configuration easier,
apt-get obconf
and take it from there.
P.S. For a basic comparison of *box window managers check
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url was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbox"
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[update]
as the original author of this says"Openbox + Pypanel + Onyx Theme + NeutroniumClassic Theme + Bridge Background + Tweaking"
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#3
Thanks! How did you populate your right-click menu? I tried the archlinux wiki
john
but I seem to get errors when running obm-xdg. Thanks again.obm-xdg
obm-xdg is a command-line tool that comes with Obmenu. It can generate a categorized sub-menu of installed GTK/GNOME applications.
To use obm-xdg, add the following line to ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml:
<menu execute="obm-xdg" id="xdg-menu" label="xdg"/>
Then run openbox --reconfigure to refresh the Openbox menu. You should now see a sub-menu labeled xdg in your menu.
john
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#4
To be honest, I hand-edited my menu.xml , so I can't help you on that one.
It's located at ~/.config/openbox
here's a copy of mine:
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just follow this syntax:
<item label="label that would appear in your rightclick menu">
<action name="Execute"><execute>command/binary</execute></action>
</item>
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check this blog too:
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It's located at ~/.config/openbox
here's a copy of mine:
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just follow this syntax:
<item label="label that would appear in your rightclick menu">
<action name="Execute"><execute>command/binary</execute></action>
</item>
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check this blog too:
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OU812 - Joined: 29 Sep 2007
#5
Thanks! I read the arch wiki a bit more carefully. I managed to install pypanel (from repo), created a startup.sh file, menumaker (from source), and nitrogen (older .deb package). Everything is going well. I'm really liking openbox. Like you I think it feels a bit more modern than fluxbox. Here's what I have so far:
john
P.S. I noticed that installing ob pulled in quite a few gtk2 themes. Is this your experience? Also, I did some research, but I don't really know what a window"tiler" does?
john
P.S. I noticed that installing ob pulled in quite a few gtk2 themes. Is this your experience? Also, I did some research, but I don't really know what a window"tiler" does?
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#6
Tiling windows means re-arranging them in a way that covers the whole screen with no overlap or space in between windows/frames. For more examples (and some screenshots) look here:
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Hmm, can't really recall what ob pulled in, but i'm guessing it's normal, and of no considerable size (?).OU812 wrote: P.S. I noticed that installing ob pulled in quite a few gtk2 themes. Is this your experience? Also, I did some research, but I don't really know what a window"tiler" does?
Tiling windows means re-arranging them in a way that covers the whole screen with no overlap or space in between windows/frames. For more examples (and some screenshots) look here:
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#7
I am certain that quite a few themes were pulled in by ob - the same thing occured on a second machine. I wouldn't mind except I can't find the matching gtk engines so that the themes are properly displayed. A quick bit of googling and searching
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and I came up empty handed. Thanks.
john
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and I came up empty handed. Thanks.
john