topic title: openbox
Posts: 1,081
OU812
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
#1
I know this is non-linux forum, but there is no"general" linux discussion forum. So here it goes. TinyME uses openbox and it looks very similar to fluxbox and blackbox. I have tried to research it, but I really couldn't find anything. One thing I was interested in was that apps had icons in the windows - very similar to xfce. I tried to see if this feature was available in fluxbox, but came up short. Any links or experience you could share on the openbox vs. fluxbox topic? Thanks.

john
Posts: 47
n2j3
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
#2
I switched over to openbox a couple of weeks after installing Antix. It's a lot cleaner than fluxbox and"feels" more modern. It's not clear what you mean by"research"; either way, here's a couple of relevant links:


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://kmandla.wordpress.com/howtos/"
linktext was:"http://kmandla.wordpress.com/howtos/"
====================================
< There's an Openbox section @ kmandla's blog, he's one of the most devoted openbox users i've seen __{{emoticon}}__


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox"
linktext was:"http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox"
====================================
< the openbox wiki for Arch linux (obviously, replace pacman with apt-get, but you'll get the hang of it anyway)

and the quintessential screenshot :


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://666kb.com/i/atojj6wbdutwpih6o.png"
linktext was:"http://666kb.com/i/atojj6wbdutwpih6o.png"
====================================
< openbox plus xcompmgr and pypanel [rather old one, i'll upload a recent one when i get home]


The only thing that's missing in openbox is a built-in window tiler. Something that can be accommodated with


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://ftp.unixdev.net/pub/debian-udev/pool/main/t/tile/"
linktext was:"http://ftp.unixdev.net/pub/debian-udev/ ... in/t/tile/"
====================================


grab one of the .debs, dpkg -i to install, and then type tile in a commandline to tile your windows (and obviously set a corresponding keyboard shortcut for it)

To make theme configuration easier,

apt-get obconf

and take it from there.

P.S. For a basic comparison of *box window managers check
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbox"
linktext was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbox"
====================================
(!)

[update]

as the original author of this says"Openbox + Pypanel + Onyx Theme + NeutroniumClassic Theme + Bridge Background + Tweaking"

========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/test2.png"
linktext was:"http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/wp-c ... /test2.png"
====================================
Posts: 1,081
OU812
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
#3
Thanks! How did you populate your right-click menu? I tried the archlinux wiki
obm-xdg

obm-xdg is a command-line tool that comes with Obmenu. It can generate a categorized sub-menu of installed GTK/GNOME applications.

To use obm-xdg, add the following line to ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml:

<menu execute="obm-xdg" id="xdg-menu" label="xdg"/>

Then run openbox --reconfigure to refresh the Openbox menu. You should now see a sub-menu labeled xdg in your menu.
but I seem to get errors when running obm-xdg. Thanks again.

john
Posts: 47
n2j3
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
#4
To be honest, I hand-edited my menu.xml , so I can't help you on that one.
It's located at ~/.config/openbox

here's a copy of mine:
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://dpaste.com/hold/35101/"
linktext was:"http://dpaste.com/hold/35101/"
====================================


just follow this syntax:

<item label="label that would appear in your rightclick menu">
<action name="Execute"><execute>command/binary</execute></action>
</item>

[edit]
check this blog too:
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/"
linktext was:"http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/"
====================================
Posts: 1,081
OU812
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
#5
Thanks! I read the arch wiki a bit more carefully. I managed to install pypanel (from repo), created a startup.sh file, menumaker (from source), and nitrogen (older .deb package). Everything is going well. I'm really liking openbox. Like you I think it feels a bit more modern than fluxbox. Here's what I have so far:

Image

john

P.S. I noticed that installing ob pulled in quite a few gtk2 themes. Is this your experience? Also, I did some research, but I don't really know what a window"tiler" does?
n2j3
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
#6
OU812 wrote: P.S. I noticed that installing ob pulled in quite a few gtk2 themes. Is this your experience? Also, I did some research, but I don't really know what a window"tiler" does?
Hmm, can't really recall what ob pulled in, but i'm guessing it's normal, and of no considerable size (?).

Tiling windows means re-arranging them in a way that covers the whole screen with no overlap or space in between windows/frames. For more examples (and some screenshots) look here:


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager"
linktext was:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager"
====================================
Last edited by n2j3 on 25 Feb 2008, 15:35, edited 1 time in total.
Posts: 1,081
OU812
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
#7
I am certain that quite a few themes were pulled in by ob - the same thing occured on a second machine. I wouldn't mind except I can't find the matching gtk engines so that the themes are properly displayed. A quick bit of googling and searching
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://www.gnome-look.org"
linktext was:"www.gnome-look.org"
====================================
and I came up empty handed. Thanks.

john