topic title: new kernels
anticapitalista
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#1
New kernels available in the antiX repo for 32 and 64 bit.

3.6.11
3.6.11-gnu
3.7.5
3.7.5-gnu

Could people please test and post comments, especially relating to performance, RAM use and whether drivers (free and proprietary) work ati/nvidia for old and new cards.
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#2
In my case, I don't"feel" much difference between the 3.7.1antix3, and the 3.7.5antix1.

Here are the inxi_f's:

First the 3.7.1-3, and I cut the top of it, sorry

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3.7.1-antix3
09 November 2012
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq dc5100 MT(PW100ET)
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 09E0h Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: 786C2 v01.02 date: 12/01/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-HT-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (pae sse sse2 sse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2990.394 MHz 2: 2990.394 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp
Network:   Card: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:0f:fe:33:d2:ed
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (4.9% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD800JD size: 80.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 9.7G used: 3.5G (39%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 63G used: 3.7G (7%) fs: ext4 
           ID: swap-1 size: 1.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0C mobo: 0.0C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1259 fan-2: 0 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 0 
Info:      Processes: 124 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 85.5/1000.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.32
Then the 3.7.5-1

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: server Kernel: 3.7.5-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-12.5-full-alpha2- Edelweißpiraten 09 November 2012
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq dc5100 MT(PW100ET)
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 09E0h Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: 786C2 v01.02 date: 12/01/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-HT-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (pae sse sse2 sse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2990.585 MHz 2: 2990.585 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.7.5-antix.1-486-smp
Network:   Card: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:0f:fe:33:d2:ed
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (4.9% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD800JD size: 80.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 9.7G used: 3.5G (39%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 63G used: 3.7G (7%) fs: ext4 
           ID: swap-1 size: 1.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0C mobo: 0.0C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1259 fan-2: 0 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 0 
Info:      Processes: 123 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 89.1/1000.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.32 


So far, the 3.7.5 kernel seems to work very well, I don't have any fancy things in this box, but I think everything works
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#3
Whats the difference between 3.7.5 and 3.7.5-gnu?

I'm running antiX 12 full, do I need to install anitX 12.5 Alpha2 full to update the kernel?

Also if someone could post the command to update the kernel I'd appreciate it. I'm fairly new to Linux.
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#4
If you are using the 32 bit version:

1 apt-get update

2 apt-get install linux-headers-3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp_3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp-10.00.Custom_i386.deb

3 apt-get install linux-image-3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp_3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp-10.00.Custom_i386.deb

4 update-grub

5 look in your menu.lst, and see if it has the right device, if you scroll down a bit, you will find something like:

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## ## End Default Options ##

title        Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp root=UUID=c5da9444-ed19-439f-963a-e839257ec903 ro 
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp
The (hd0,0) might be (hd1,0), so you have to edit it to how your machine is setup.

Uhm, anyone?
BitJam
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BitJam
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#5
HardwareGuru wrote:Whats the difference between 3.7.5 and 3.7.5-gnu?
I asked anti about this.
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/"
linktext was:"Here"
====================================
is more info:
Linux, the kernel developed and distributed by Linus Torvalds et al, contains non-Free Software, i.e., software that does not respect your essential freedoms, and it induces you to install additional non-Free Software that it doesn't contain.

GNU Linux-libre is a project to maintain and publish 100% Free distributions of Linux, suitable for use in Free System Distributions, removing software that is included without source code, with obfuscated or obscured source code, under non-Free Software licenses, that do not permit you to change the software so that it does what you wish, and that induces or requires you to install additional pieces of non-Free Software.
I think it is mostly about proprietary drivers. Nvidia comes to mind but I imagine there are many others.
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afab4
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#6
The 3.7.5 kernel runs about 84mb @idle.
The stock 3.6.6 kernel runs about 98mb @idle.
I have issues with the 3.6.6 kernel detecting resolution and displaying fonts correctly. I have no such issues with the 3.7.5 kernel. Very nice.

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: E4300 Kernel: 3.7.5-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-12.5-full-alpha2-amd64 Edelweißpiraten 09 November 2012
Machine:   System: Dell product: Latitude E4300
           Mobo: Dell model: 0D201R Bios: Dell version: A07 date: 05/07/2009
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo CPU P9400 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x800@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.7.5-antix.1-amd64-smp
Network:   Card-1: Intel WiFi Link 5100 driver: iwlwifi 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:22:fb:b0:d0:c8
           Card-2: Intel 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:24:e8:bc:e9:e3
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (2.2% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1600BJKT size: 160.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 9.8G used: 3.4G (35%) fs: reiserfs ID: swap-1 size: 2.75GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.5C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 102 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 96.6/2967.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.32 
afab4@E4300:~
$ 
anticapitalista
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#7
3.6.6 is not a good kernel. I missed out too many things when I built it.

Could testers please try 3.6.11 as well since we will almost likely ship with it due to issues with the 3.7.5 kernel and older ati cards (unless this kernel fixes them - I don't know)
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afab4
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#8
anticapitalista wrote:3.6.6 is not a good kernel. I missed out too many things when I built it.

Could testers please try 3.6.11 as well since we will almost likely ship with it due to issues with the 3.7.5 kernel and older ati cards (unless this kernel fixes them - I don't know)
This morning I did an antixsnapshot using the 3.7.5 kernel and after doing so, I made a USB with the new_usb.sh script.
Everything seemed to work OK but a re-install to my hard drive using the USB and cli-installer resulted in etc/fstab not being populated and my other partitions are unavailable.
anticapitalista
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#9
Try in a root terminal either

buildfstab

or

make-fstab
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rust collector
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#10
and on the aspire one netbook:

the 3.6.11

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 Host: aa1 Kernel: 3.6.11-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-12.5-full-alpha2-486 Edelweißpiraten 09 November 2012
Machine:   System: Acer product: AOA110 version: 1
           Mobo: Intel model: N/A Bios: INSYDE version: v0.3109 date: 05/09/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom CPU N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio:     Card: Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:1e:68:b1:f2:b4
           Card-2: Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath5k 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:22:69:03:bc:59
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 15.3GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: STT_FEM16GF13M size: 15.3GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 13G used: 3.4G (28%) fs: ext4 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 87 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 51.1/1504.2MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.20 
and my favourite (so far) 3.7.1-3

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: aa1 Kernel: 3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-12.5-full-alpha2-486 Edelweißpiraten 09 November 2012
Machine:   System: Acer product: AOA110 version: 1
           Mobo: Intel model: N/A Bios: INSYDE version: v0.3109 date: 05/09/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom CPU N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio:     Card: Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:1e:68:b1:f2:b4
           Card-2: Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath5k 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:22:69:03:bc:59
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 15.3GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: STT_FEM16GF13M size: 15.3GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 13G used: 3.4G (28%) fs: ext4 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 89 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 50.9/1504.1MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.20 
It is really close! but the 3.7.1antix3 still is my favourite.
The 3.6.11 does work fine on my machine
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afab4
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#11
anticapitalista wrote:Try in a root terminal either

buildfstab

or

make-fstab
buildfstab populated the fstab but a subsequent reboot still did not detect the other partitions.

make-fstab populated the fstab and upon reboot all partitions were detected and available. __{{emoticon}}__

I have only had these issues since the 12.5 release. In the 12 release, everything works fine as long as you don't upgrade antixsnapshot and new_usb.sh
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afab4
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#12
The 3.6.11 kernel uses the same memory at idle as the 3.7.5 kernel.
No issues. Works well.

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: E4300 Kernel: 3.6.11-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-12.5-full-alpha2-amd64 Edelweißpiraten 09 November 2012
Machine:   System: Dell product: Latitude E4300
           Mobo: Dell model: 0D201R Bios: Dell version: A07 date: 05/07/2009
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo CPU P9400 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x800@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network:   Card-1: Intel WiFi Link 5100 driver: iwlwifi 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:22:fb:b0:d0:c8
           Card-2: Intel 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:24:e8:bc:e9:e3
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (2.2% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1600BJKT size: 160.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 9.7G used: 3.3G (36%) fs: ext3 ID: swap-1 size: 2.75GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.5C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 98 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 98.5/2968.3MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.32 
afab4@E4300:~
$ 
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rokytnji
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#13
Running

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$ dpkg --list | grep linux-image
ii  linux-image-3.4.0-11.dmz.1-liquorix-686   3.4.0-18                        i386         Linux 3.4.0 for modern PCs
ii  linux-image-3.7.5-antix.1-486-smp         3.7.5-antix.1-486-smp-1         i386         Linux kernel, version 3.7.5-antix.1-486-smp
3.7 kernel at 65MB of ram at idle after boot in icewm on Distro: antiX-M11-686 Jayaben Desai 01 May 2011
IBM A22M with Single core Pentium III (Coppermine) clocked at 1000.00 MHz, 500.7MB of Ram.

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#14
Uh, after booting the computer today, on the 3.6.11 kernel, I get a different resolution than I had yesterday.
It is the same as the 3.5.0(I think it was that came stock?)
Why would it change overnight???
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masinick
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#15
Right now on my antiX core system, I've been sticking with the Liquorix kernels, and I've had consistently good success with them there, and also on my Debian Sid system. On my antiX 12.5 Alpha 2 full system, I've tried using both the Liquorix and antiX kernels. For the most part, things work well there, with one exception: for some reason, the GL graphical extensions are not accessible when I attempt to run xscreensaver with the GL extensions. Things like the gltext screensaver, which I like to use with the date and time stuff displaying when my screensaver runs, doesn't work with antiX 12.5 Alpha 2, yet on the same hardware, the same stuff works just fine with antiX core and Debian Sid. Haven't had a chance to really figure out what's missing in the 12.5 release that is present on the other systems. If anyone knows what specific files and packages enable the GL functionality (in addition to the xscreensaver-gl* packages themselves, I'm interested in finding this out.

Here's my configuration (and it's similar, except for the different kernels, across antiX core, antiX 12.5 Alpha 2, and Debian Sid):

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inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: antiX Kernel: 3.7.0-6.dmz.1-liquorix-686 i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.7.2) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.8.3 (Gtk 2.24.9) Distro: antiX-M11- Jayaben Desai 01 May 2011
Machine:   System: Gateway (portable) product: MX8738 version: 3408450R
           Mobo: Gateway model: N/A version: 72.15 Bios: Phoenix version: 72.15 date: 04/16/2007
CPU:       Dual core Intel CPU T2080 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 6916.4 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1440x900@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GM x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 8.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.7.0-6.dmz.1-liquorix-686
Network:   Card-1: Intel PRO/100 VE Network Connection driver: e100 ver: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI port: 4000 bus-ID: 04:08.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN driver: b43-pci-bridge bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1600BEVS size: 160.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 13G used: 4.2G (36%) fs: ext3 ID: swap-1 size: 2.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 119 Uptime: 26 min Memory: 278.0/2014.5MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.2 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.37) inxi: 1.8.34