My Incognito 10GB Hard Disk [SOLVED]

hankosaurus · posted: 2015-02-17 05:17

Hello Forum.

I am having fun with a 15 year old PC which does not yet know about a 10GB Fujitsu drive it has. That drive had been used as a second drive in the same PC's Windows XP environment, before I expelled all the Microsoft stuff and loaded antiX MX-14.3 on its sister 10GB Maxtor (boot) drive. The system is running well, with a few surprises to sort out yet.

Anyway, I am looking to learn how to make the PC recognize that second hard disk drive, so that I can put files thereon. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Here is a listing of resources on the PC. That missing drive does not appear in the list:

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.10.3
           Distro: MX-14.3 Symbiosis 03 December 2014
Machine:   Mobo: Intel model: CA810 v: AA744840-442
           Bios: Intel v: 8C1A100A.86A.0015.P07.9909131700 date: 09/13/1999
CPU:       Single core Celeron (Mendocino) (-UP-) cache: 128 KB speed: 432 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82810 (CGC) Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1152x864@75.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] driver: snd_ens1371 Sound: ALSA v: k3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 driver: e100
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: [i][withheld][/i]
           Card-2: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 driver: tulip
           IF: eth1 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: [i][withheld][/i]
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 10.2GB (37.0% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: Maxtor_91021U2 size: 10.2GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 8.3G used: 2.6G (33%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 1.10GB used: 0.01GB (1%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 118 Uptime: 54 min Memory: 286.8/499.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.16

Thanks for your help,
Hank

fatmac · posted: 2015-02-17 08:26

Likely your drive was/is set up as a 'slave/secondary' drive where the 'jumper' at the back of the drive needs to be moved to 'primary', it just pulls off/pushes on, don't lose it, it can be a bit fiddly to do. (I used tweezers.)

thriftee · posted: 2015-02-17 13:03

Maybe its disabled in the bios?

If thats ok, open it up and check each for drive select jumpers. On each ide cable, if there are 2 devices, one needs to be primary, the other secondary.

rokytnji · posted: 2015-02-17 13:23

Man. I messed the MX XFCE part of this thread.

My Bad.

hankosaurus · posted: 2015-02-21 05:07

Hello fatmac, thriftee, and rokytnji.

Many thanks for your replies. Just several open points before I proceed....

fatmac wrote:Likely your drive was/is set up as a 'slave/secondary' drive where the 'jumper' at the back of the drive needs to be moved to 'primary', it just pulls off/pushes on, don't lose it, it can be a bit fiddly to do. (I used tweezers.)

Thanks. I think you are right inasmuch as that was a secondary drive in the previous Windows XP environment. The primary drive is the boot drive that I have antiX [MX14.3] on, and it is recognized, no problem. I didn't change any jumpers around when doing the upgrade to antiX [MX14.3]. If I understand you correctly, just changing the jumper from secondary to primary may make the"invisible drive" recognized. I have the sides off the box now, so that would not be too hard to do.

thriftee wrote:Maybe its disabled in the bios? ... If thats ok, open it up and check each for drive select jumpers. On each ide cable, if there are 2 devices, one needs to be primary, the other secondary.

Hadn't thought of that possibility, thriftee. I'll explore the bios to see if there is some way to turn on that"missing" drive. I'll check that first.

rokytnji wrote:Man. I messed the MX XFCE part of this thread. My Bad.

Hi Roky. I'm confused and do not know what you mean. I included the"$ inixi -F" listing, as you suggested in our original discussion. Are you referring to that? Or is this about something else?

Thanks again everyone.

Hank

P.S. edited to add clarifying RED.

rokytnji · posted: 2015-02-21 11:22

Hi Roky. I'm confused and do not know what you mean

On your printer thread title you stated you were running AntiX 14 when in fact you are running MX-14.
2 different operating systems that work differently from each other.

My reply here was geared towards AntiX 14 because of that thread title. \
So my reply was off topic and would not be of any use.. So I deleted my reply with a explanation. If you notice. I changed the title on one of your threads from AntiX to MX-14.
Too avoid confusion.
Hence my quote.

But since I am here.

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$ cat / etc/fstab
# Pluggable devices are handled by uDev, they are not in fstab
UUID=50d6af4b-c241-4639-b075-d59149dc773f / auto defaults,noatime 1 1
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0622 0 0
UUID=bab99903-8063-4e7b-a371-7e129ad3c7a2 /home auto defaults,noatime 1 2
UUID=a55f5477-b77d-4e07-b34a-d0260ad85959 none            swap    sw                    0         0
UUID=b3b59257-818b-457d-b44a-9bc6632c050e /media/data2  ext4    errors=remount-ro       0      2
UUID=284c1657-3c0b-484c-ad41-a90908a993fd /media/data1  ext4    errors=remount-ro       0      2

This my hand made fstab text file I made for my dual hard drive test box in AntiX 14 testing because I needed access as user when I blow away this install
to install the next testing and need to backup what I have on here already.

My Antix hard drive with a extra data partition for holding stuff = /dev/sda4

========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://i.imgur.com/MlBf599.jpg"
linktext was:"http://i.imgur.com/MlBf599.jpg"
====================================

My other hard drive for holding stuff

========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://i.imgur.com/ApxmJRX.jpg"
linktext was:"http://i.imgur.com/ApxmJRX.jpg"
====================================

MX-14 handles these things differently than how I did this. AntiX is more of a manual type of distro since it does not run XFCE.

thriftee · posted: 2015-02-21 14:23

I think the easy answer is to open it up. Make sure the maxtor has no jumpers, or if it does, check that its on master. then check the fujitsu, assuming its on the same cable, it should be jumpered as slave. Check that the cables are on and that the fujitsu power cable is on well, Close it back up, turn it on, go into setup, make sure no drives are disabled, save bios exit and boot.

Watch that first screen before grub for errors or if it sees the drives

If all is well, when you get to MX 14, run gparted, and you should see both drives

hankosaurus · posted: 2015-02-22 03:47

Hi Roky and thriftee.

Thanks for your replies and patience.

Apologies Roky. Newbie that I am, I easily confused antiX and MX-14.3. The product description on the receipt that came with my CD said"antiX MX-14.3 - Install/Live CD (32 bit)". I had no idea they were two different animals. The disk itself says MX-14.3. I did see your correction on the other thread and I thank you for it.

Thriftee, I will do exactly what you said and see what happens. I hope I can return with some great news soon.

Thanks again.

Hank

hankosaurus · posted: 2015-02-28 04:15

Hello again Roky and thriftee.

I said I would come back to this thread as things developed. This is just FYI as promised.

Once I learned that Antix 14 and MX-14.3 were wholly different animals, and at Rocky's suggestion, I made acquaintance with the helpful folks over on the MEPIS community forum where MX-14 is common fare.

Anyway, I have learned that I had installed a PAE version of software, when in fact, my PC is an older one better suited for the non-PAE version of MX-14.3. So, today, I received the non-PAE version of MX-14.3 on a CD and reloaded that into this PC.

The PC still does not recognize the Fujitsu, even though the jumpers were correct already for the Maxtor and Fujitsu. Master on Maxtor, Slave on Fujitsu. I just disconnected the Fujitsu. Before disconnecting it, there had been two error messages during boot. Both vanished after removing the Fujitsu's ribbon and power cables. They looked like this:

[ 14.640095] ata1:SRST failed [errno = -16]
[ 24.652096] ata1:SRST failed [errno = -16]

I will be googling about to figure out what those messages mean. I'm still clueless as to why the Fujitsu was working well enough to format it when Windows XP was on the machine and I was planning my escape from Microsoft's XP to a small"UNIX-inspired" OS. Anyway, in worst case, I can do without that 10G Fujitsu drive. Thumb drives mount in the USB ports okay.

My opportunities for learning and fun are seemingly boundless. Happy Day.

Hank

male · posted: 2015-02-28 10:15

hankosaurus wrote:I am having fun with a 15 year old PC which does not yet know about a 10GB Fujitsu drive it has. That drive had been used as a second drive in the same PC's Windows XP environment, before I expelled all the Microsoft stuff and loaded antiX MX-14.3 on its sister 10GB Maxtor (boot) drive. The system is running well, with a few surprises to sort out yet.
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Bios: Intel v: 8C1A100A.86A.0015.P07.9909131700 date: 09/13/1999
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Start the Live CD.
Open a terminal.
Will they root and show the commands:

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blkid -c /dev/null -o list
parted -l
fdisk -l -u -c

DeepDayze · posted: 2015-02-28 16:09

these messages:

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[ 14.640095] ata1:SRST failed [errno = -16]
[ 24.652096] ata1:SRST failed [errno = -16]

may mean there's a problem in initializing the disk, as the disk is seen but can't be accessed. Probably disk failing?

fatmac · posted: 2015-02-28 17:43

Have you tried a different ribbon cable with that drive(?).

rokytnji · posted: 2015-02-28 18:13

If you look at my screenshots hank. That Desktop Emachine came out of a dumpster with a 8 gig drive in it.

Because of the price I paid for the Emachine. $0.00. I decided a 320 gig maxtor and 125 gig toshiba

320=US $18.00=used drive

125=US $24.88=new drive

was worth it to me as well as putting in a wireless pcie G card in it also for 9 bucks.
Bumped the ram from 512 MB to 2 gig also.
which was a (US $9.99)

All that did was cramp my beer budget a bit but it makes a heck of a media center and wireless test box in the motrcycle shop.
As well as a play toy for the guys that hang out once in a while in my shop on the week ends.
So A grand total of 62.88.

It is not a swinging dog d__k deal but I did this back when computer parts were more pricey than they are now.
Plus. I live way in the alternate universe part of the world where my place is

^---- embedded YouTube-hosted video: https://www.youtube.com/X4r4U-y5WJs

"A geographical oddity!"

DeepDayze · posted: 2015-02-28 21:55

fatmac wrote:Have you tried a different ribbon cable with that drive(?).

That's another good option as IDE cables can get flaky after a while.

thriftee · posted: 2015-03-01 00:25

Were both of these drives previously use in this particular machine with this particular cable before?

Some IDE ribbon cables are not keyed. Disconnect the Maxtor just to be safe, and try and see if the cable fits on the Fujitsu flipped around the other way. If it fits, try bring it up that way. Generally, if its not marked or markings molded into the plastic on the connector (use a magnifier to look closely), there usually is a stripe on the side where pin #1 is and pin #1 should be marked on the drive.

Once you get the system to recognize the Fujitsu by itself, then check jumpers and reconnect the Maxtor.