Moving ahead to antiX-13.5 - Page 3

rust collector · posted: 2013-10-11 17:46

Does anyone use wmii, and if you do, would you be able to install it yourself?

skidoo · posted: 2013-10-11 23:57

retaining"AUTHORS" +"LICENS*" files within a distribution, for each app, is mandatory
but
"changelog" files are available to the user, on-demand (via synaptic GUI, etc)
and the changelog files comprise over half the"size on disk" represented by the doc path
so...

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#!/usr/bin/env bash
# . . .
#  WITHIN THE REMASTERING WORKFLOW FOR THE 
# SPACE-CONSTRAINED antiX"FULL" EDITION
#
cd /usr/share/doc

# THANKS, THANKS.gz and similar variants
find  -iname THANK* -exec rm {} \;

# CONTRIBUTORS, and any similar filename variants
find  -iname CONTRIBUT* -exec rm {} \;

# changes, changelog, changelog.debian, changelog.gz, etc
find  -iname CHANG* -exec rm {} \;

The doc path is peppered with many valuable assets not exposed via manpages
examples, TODOs + known bugs/workarounds...
/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html
/usr/share/doc/xarchiver/html/index.html
/usr/share/doc/libfreetype6/reference/ft2-glyph_management.html

skidoo · posted: 2013-10-12 00:08

afaik, presence of wmii adds less than 1Mb to squashfs

Does anyone use wmii

I try to use it at least weekly (usually around the second tuesday of each week)

dolphin_oracle · posted: 2013-10-14 14:32

How about removing gtk3 themes, at least until"testing" gtk3 settles down some more.

bbwf · posted: 2013-10-14 22:36

Just a humble thought,
The easiest way to save a boat load of space is ... like you said.... omit LibreOffice.
i agree, I do like it, can't live without it.
Perhaps you can just put a download shortcut on the desktop, for users to get , if they wish, after they do the install.

Now at Libreoffice 4.1

__{{emoticon}}__

skidoo · posted: 2013-10-14 22:40

I couldn't boil this down to a paragraph. Call it a list of loosely coupled bullet points
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The ignorantguru quote is painfully true but, currently, it's fairly impossible for a user of a jessie or sid -based distro to altogether avoid gtk3

synaptic package manager is present in antiX full

synaptic v0.80+ (the version currently available regardless whether user elects jessie or sid repo) expects a gtk3 theme

currently, neither antiX base nor full ships with a suitable gtk3 theme

If the mindset is"that's on the user's shoulders, whether or not to install gtk3 themes"...
...user is (basically) screwed. Even if I realize that synaptic (and other apps I will install) NEEDS a gtk3 theme, where do find 'em and which do I choose???

follow the bouncing ball-of-frustration:
available in debian repo is a gtk3-themes package. Install that.
Check via lxappearance, find newly-installed"Oxygen" and"Clearlooks" themes.
Choose either of these -- set theme active and launch synaptic again.
No change. Theme is not applied to the synaptic GUI.
Ah, although NOT autoinstalled as a dependency... gtk3-themes-engine must be required. Install that.
Test. Still no worky.
.
Stumble around until discovering/realizing that"user" vs"sudo" vs"Alt+F2 gksu runbox" vs"launched from root terminal"
determines whether user's or root's active theme is applied.
So, set either of those 2 newly-installed gtk3 themes active for root/sudo user ...and FINALLY have theme applied to the synaptic GUI.
.
Afterward, while using synaptic, click a"visit homepage" textlink displayed to the details pane for a given package.
Boom! abend. Synaptic inexplicably terminates.
[edit, months later]:
Nowadays, clicking the details tab"homepage" link does nothing. User can right-click and copy url (which is fine by me)
.
Launch synaptic from command prompt in root terminal.
Repeat the above usage workflow & note the myriad gtk errorlog messages displayed in terminal & realize that the repo-supplied gtk3 themes are buggy.
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Based on the above, I'm suggesting:
Ship a default gtk theme which has been tested to work with both gtk3 and gtk2

github:shimmerproject has some nice (recently patched to work with latest gtk3.x) themes
and gtk-apps.org has some appealing (well-behaved?) themes, like"graybird","clearbird"

[edit]
reading this tonight (describes non-backwards-compatible bugginess) reminded me

========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://news.softpedia.com/news/Beautiful-Zukitwo-Theme-Is-Now-GNOME-3-10-Compatible-390943.shtml"
linktext was:"http://news.softpedia.com/news/Beautifu ... 0943.shtml"
====================================

to suggest that whatever"working" default theme is shipped, pinning its package is probably advisable

Eino · posted: 2013-10-15 11:58

Two things to help with the user experience with antiX.
1. an app to temporally stop screen blanking, for watching movies, or anytime you don't want the screen to blank. I currently use"xset -dpms; xset s off" to do this.
2. The omission of gogglesmm, This Music manager has a poor quality, when it comes to playback, The quality dose not even come close to XMMS. .

I have been away for awhile, so I don't really know about the improvements being made. So excuse me if this is already done.

Dave · posted: 2013-10-15 14:33

Eino wrote:Two things to help with the user experience with antiX.
1. an app to temporally stop screen blanking, for watching movies, or anytime you don't want the screen to blank. I currently use"xset -dpms; xset s off" to do this.

Should be an apt-get -f install set-screen-blank away __{{emoticon}}__

dark-D · posted: 2013-10-15 15:00

Eino wrote:Two things to help with the user experience with antiX.
1. an app to temporally stop screen blanking, for watching movies, or anytime you don't want the screen to blank. I currently use"xset -dpms; xset s off" to do this.
2. The omission of gogglesmm, This Music manager has a poor quality, when it comes to playback, The quality dose not even come close to XMMS. .

I have been away for awhile, so I don't really know about the improvements being made. So excuse me if this is already done.

1. add stop-xscreensaver=1 to ~/.mplayer/config

2. yeah, gogglesmm has no new updates or bug fixes, it's falling behind. i use deadbeef and soon 0.6 will be out with lots of features.

Eino · posted: 2013-10-16 00:03

Dave wrote:Should be an apt-get -f install set-screen-blank away __{{emoticon}}__

Nice just what is needed, I really like it. __{{emoticon}}__

jeffreyC · posted: 2014-03-31 01:49

A possibility would be to do like CrunchBang and have a"welcome" script to install things like LibreOffice which would allow keeping the ISO down to CD size.
Another thought: Does the 64 bit ISO need to be CD size ?

anticapitalista · posted: 2014-03-31 10:38

jeffreyC wrote:A possibility would be to do like CrunchBang and have a"welcome" script to install things like LibreOffice which would allow keeping the ISO down to CD size.
Another thought: Does the 64 bit ISO need to be CD size ?

antiX is lean and mean, so yes it does have to fit on a cd, even the 64 bit version.

Not everyone has a fast internet, or even any internet, so downloading a whole libreoffice suite (which is much better than the limited Abiword) means downloading c 250MB. Downloading another browser, eg Chrome only 40MB.

jeffreyC · posted: 2014-04-01 20:08

Some users needs are well met by abiword while others need libreoffice, then yet others seldom to never need either.

Saving 200+ mb on the CD makes leaving the office suite off of the ISO look like a good idea.

anticapitalista · posted: 2014-04-01 21:28

You could always install antiX-base and customise to your own liking.

700 MB with libreoffice is set in stone for antiX. That isn't going to change.

jdmeaux1952 · posted: 2014-04-02 20:32

My brains aren't what they used to be, so I'll try to explain what hit me. I know I had done it before, but can't remember how.

Items like the doc files and a few apps that are not generally used could be left out. This would reduce the size of the Live cd. AFTER the install (not on the Live CD), an icon pops up on the desktop to load additional apps and files, but you get to go through the list to decide if you want all or what. The default would have them all selected. Does this make sense?

I know I had done this years ago but what OS it was with I can't remember. Heck, I have trouble remembering if I zipped up sometimes. __{{emoticon}}__