topic title: Monitor issue
Posts: 5
TasteDaHate
Joined: 07 Feb 2013
#1
Hey everyone. I'm new to antiX. I made my boot cd and fired it up. There alot of choices to choose when booting antiX. I have tried them all but after it loaded the kernal and blah blah my monitor says out of range. It's a flat screen tv with a pc input so it a fairly decent size screen. Everyone have any advice. I'm also farly new to Linux. I moved to Linux because windows 8 is just lame lame lame so forgive me for my lack of knowledge is the Linux field. Thank you much.
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#2
What graphics card does your computer have? You possibly need drivers and/or Xorg.conf setting up.
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Eino
Joined: 12 Oct 2012
#3
How old is the flat-screen TV? Most of the older ones will not go above 1024x768@60.0hz. The real key is set it up using a small screen at the lower resolutions at 60 hz.. But once you get it in range I believe it will show the highest resolution.
You will need to use the fill mode on the TV to fill the screen. If you have a manual to the TV it should give you the highest VGA resolutions.
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TasteDaHate
Joined: 07 Feb 2013
#4
The tv supports up to 1360x768. Just has the intagrated intel 910 gl express family chipset in it.
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#5
Can you post output of

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$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
LVDS connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 345mm x 194mm
   1366x768       60.0*+
   1280x720       59.9  
   1152x768       59.8  
   1024x768       59.9  
   800x600        59.9  
   848x480        59.7  
   720x480        59.7  
   640x480        59.4  
VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
harry@biker:~/Documents
$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780M/RS780MN [Mobility Radeon HD 3200 Graphics] 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
cuz you said
The tv supports up to 1360x768. Just has the intagrated intel 910 gl express family chipset in it.
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TasteDaHate
Joined: 07 Feb 2013
#6
I'm already lost :/
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#7
Can you post output of
I don't think he can because his monitor says out of range.

I had that problem one time and I went in on a live CD and edited Xorg.conf in leafpad to restrict output to 60Hz, but my monitor is old while his is new, and Xorg now doesn't always use Xorg.conf.
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Eino
Joined: 12 Oct 2012
#8
TasteDaHate wrote:I'm already lost :/
I was trying to give him the easiest instructions, because he is new to Linux.
I don't think he knows the terminal commands yet.
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Dave
Joined: 20 Jan 2010
#9
Was there no cli installer option in the boot choices?
You could try booting into init 3 by adding a 3 to the end of the grub boot line (select one of the menu options and press"space 3" )

If that still gets you out of range press f1 at the grub screen (the menu) to view help files, in that help file there should be options to load different resolutions and / or video drivers (or use google for grub video cheat codes). When you know what driver / resolution you need type it to the end of the grub boot line behind the (space 3) from earlier.
Chances are you will need something like
VGA=792
to get the console frame buffer to load within range ( this is only if simply adding the"space 3" does not work.

If it loads correctly you should get to the cli where it will show something like
Welcome to antix powered by debian testing
*
*
antiX1 Login:
here you type"root" for the login username and password

After this you can install with cli installer (cli-installer is the command)
or you could run X -configure (capital X) or your best (and easiest) option would be to run sgfxi.
running X -configure or sgfxi will build an Xorg.conf file that you can modify by adding the correct mode line to allow X to start in range.
I recommend trying sgfxi first!

When sgfxi finishes you should be back at the command prompt
root@antiX1 #
here type service slim start (press enter)
to try to start the desktop
If that does not open the desktop login manager (you are still out of range), press Control Alt F1 and proceed with the following

type: service slim stop (press enter)
command to edit the xorg file is
nano / etc/X11/xorg.conf (note there is an space between / and etc due to a forum bug, it should not be there)

in that file there should be a sections that looks similar to
Section"Screen"
Identifier"Screen0"
Device"Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
SubSection"Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
in this section you will need to add a mode line so that it looks like
Section"Screen"
Identifier"Screen0"
Device"Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
SubSection"Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
Modes"1024x768"
EndSubSection

You will need to add this mode line below every depth line in the file, In nano you can press Control and W for to search the file for Depth
When you are done editing the file press Control X the y then enter to save

then retry starting the desktop by
type: service slim start (press enter)

hope this helps, if you are stuck on a part message back (and if possible) quote the part that you are stuck on and I will try to explain it another way or in more detail
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TasteDaHate
Joined: 07 Feb 2013
#10
Sweet I got to the installer but now I'm stuck again. It ask me if I want to repartition. I click yes. Then I get a screen with flags make fs ect. Then I click quit and the next line says root partition(hda1,sda1. Ect) so I've tried both. I only have 1 sata hdd. So then it says available file systemss for sda1 or hda1 which ever I select are ext 2,3 or 4. I chose ext3. Next line says use seperate home partition? I have tried yes and no. It installs then ask to install grub and I say yes. Then I set yup username and pass then reboot. Then I get a message saying error loading operating system
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,955
Site Admin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#11
TasteDaHate

Boot the cd to init 3 like Dave suggested above, but instead og logging in as root, login as demo (password is also demo) and then type
startx.

Does this get you to a desktop?

If so, then you can use the gui installer.

BTW Which version of antiX are you using?

If you have to use the cli-installer, have a look here.


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TasteDaHate
Joined: 07 Feb 2013
#12
Ok I figured out that it goes out of range when going to the desktop. That's been the issue all along it seems. Only when it loads the desktop it says out of range. Not matter what resolution I boot seems like. I don't have to use any commands to start it up to the welcome to anitx part, that displays fine and I can login but once i hit startx and it loads, bam, out of range.
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Eperbab
Joined: 10 Dec 2012
#13
After booting to command line, install Midnight Commander. This is similar to Total Commander, but runs on linux command line.

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sudo apt-get install mc mcedit 
Run it with sudo mc. (runs mc as root)
Navigate to etc/X11. Check if there is a file called Xorg.conf. You can save/edit files in etc/X11 as root.

You will need cvt and xrandr. If it isn't installed, type
sudo apt-get install xrandr
sudo apt-get install cvt

I also had unsupported TV-monitor with broken EDID implementation and an unsupported video card, but now I have 1360x768@60 Hz.
My Xorg.conf is attached for reference. This is for an Ati AGP card, you will need some changes. ( edit"Module" section, BusID can be skipped, VGA0 may have to be renamed..) Type in xrandr to see the proper names for your system. Here it gives:

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$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1360 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA-0 connected 1360x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
   1360x768_60.00   59.8*+
..
The names VGA-0 and Screen0 were copied from here to my Xorg.Conf

To display configured monitor resolutions, type in xrandr.
To create new Modeline, you will need cvt and xrandr.
cvt 1360 768 60 will show settings for 1360x768 @ 60 Hz. Check your monitor manual for supported AxB@C.

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enzo@Mantix:~
$ cvt 1360 768 60
# 1360x768 59.80 Hz (CVT) hsync: 47.72 kHz; pclk: 84.75 MHz
Modeline"1360x768_60.00"   84.75  1360 1432 1568 1776  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync
$ xrandr --newmode"1360x768_60.00"   84.75  1360 1432 1568 1776  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync
$ xrandr --addmode VGA-0"1360x768_60.00"
The commands above will create a new modeline 1360x768@60Hz for VGA-0, and will add it to avalaible resolutions. Type in the commands above, then try to run the desktop. Changes made by this method are temporary. You have to add modelines to your Xorg.conf to make them permanent. The name VGA-0 may have to be replaced, type in xrandr to see.
The modeline lines in my Xorg.conf configuration file were simply copied from the cvt output above.

You may try out in consol mode:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (may help in some cases)
Xorg -configure (will create a Xorg.conf file in your home directory)