topic title: MAME in antix(low ram linux)
Posts: 80
kwstas
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
#1
in my low-end system(see signature) i've tested many mame32 versions through wine and 0,74version seems to run fine!

i suppose that since i use wine for it, it uses more ram.
from the other hand i've tried sdlmame but it's too heavy for my system.
unfortunately the web site of xmame(old versions) is closed!

could anyone guide me please?
Posts: 89
Stuart O'mahony
Joined: 07 Mar 2010
#2
xmame can be got through the repos. Try the following command (as root) in the terminal:

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apt-get install xmame-x
If it doesn't work copy the results of your sources list:

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cat /etc/apt/sources.list
Are the following included/unmarked:


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url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org"
linktext was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org"
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testing/non-free Packages

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url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org"
linktext was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org"
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stable/non-free Packages
Posts: 80
kwstas
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
#3
kwstas@antiX1:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# See sources.list(5) for more information

# Note:If you want maximum stability, only use the stable repos.
# If you want to install kde3.5, you MUST only use the stable repos.
# (this will change when kde3.5 is no loger available in stable)

# MEPIS 8 series.
# Only for kernel upgrades. Best NOT to use.
# deb
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url was:"ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/"
linktext was:"ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/"
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mepis-8.5 main
# MEPIS mirrors
# deb
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url was:"ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.mepis.org/mepis/"
linktext was:"ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.mepis.org/mepis/"
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mepis-8.0 main
# deb
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url was:"http://fr1.mepis-deb.org/mepis/"
linktext was:"http://fr1.mepis-deb.org/mepis/"
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mepis-8.0 main
# deb
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url was:"http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.mepis.org/mepis/"
linktext was:"http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.mepis.org/mepis/"
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mepis-8.0 main

# Debian Testing.
# Testing enabled for 'rolling' release.
deb
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url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
linktext was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
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testing main contrib non-free
deb
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url was:"http://security.debian.org/"
linktext was:"http://security.debian.org/"
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testing/updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src
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url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
linktext was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
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testing main contrib non-free

# Debian Stable
# This will 'soon' be"Squeeze". Use for maximum stability.
# deb
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url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
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stable main contrib non-free
# deb
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url was:"http://security.debian.org/"
linktext was:"http://security.debian.org/"
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stable/updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src
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url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
linktext was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
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stable main contrib non-free

# Multimedia Stable and Testing
# deb
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url was:"http://www.debian-multimedia.org/"
linktext was:"http://www.debian-multimedia.org/"
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stable main non-free
deb
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url was:"http://www.debian-multimedia.org/"
linktext was:"http://www.debian-multimedia.org/"
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testing main non-free

# Goggles music manager
# deb
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url was:"http://apt.progchild.de/"
linktext was:"http://apt.progchild.de/"
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stable main

# opera
# deb
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url was:"http://deb.opera.com/opera/"
linktext was:"http://deb.opera.com/opera/"
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lenny non-free

# virtualbox
# deb
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url was:"http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/"
linktext was:"http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/"
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lenny non-free

# liquorix kernels
# deb
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url was:"http://liquorix.net/debian/"
linktext was:"http://liquorix.net/debian/"
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sid main

###### Debian Unstable/Sid##########
########
###### Use at your own risk! ########
# deb
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url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
linktext was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
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unstable main contrib non-free
# deb
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url was:"http://www.debian-multimedia.org/"
linktext was:"http://www.debian-multimedia.org/"
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unstable main non-free

i see in synaptic that the version of xmame is quite new... do you think it could work on my system?
Posts: 89
Stuart O'mahony
Joined: 07 Mar 2010
#4
The x-mame project stopped at version 106 years back, but I used to run mame on old IBM pii back in the Windows days and that ran well*; that I think was v100. (the Windows and Linux versioning are in step with one another.) v106 is the old type without the game menus so I think you should be okay.

Just try it is my top advice. __{{emoticon}}__

*Just remembered I started out with 128 ram, and upgraded: I forget now if i tried mame before doing this.
Posts: 80
kwstas
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
#5
even if i want to try it doesn't let me! )
it gave me this message:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package xmame-x is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package xmame-x has no installation candidate
Posts: 89
Stuart O'mahony
Joined: 07 Mar 2010
#6
Uncomment this line:

# deb
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url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
linktext was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
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stable main contrib non-free

Open up geany; save and close; and run an update:

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su
geany /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
Now try installing x-mame.
Posts: 80
kwstas
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
#7
it worked stuart!
thank you very much!

it opens as minimized window and uses only 10mb of ram! wow!
it's only command line though... how can i use it with a graphical application like mame32?
Posts: 80
kwstas
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
#8
where is the configuration file?

i got these when i run it
kwstas@antiX1:~$ xmame.x11 rastan
GLERROR: cannot access OpenGL library libGL.so
GLERROR: dlerror() returns [libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
Use of OpenGL mode disabled
info: trying to parse: /etc/xmame/xmamerc
error: unknown option history_file, on line 13 of file: /etc/xmame/xmamerc
ignoring line
error: unknown option mameinfo_file, on line 14 of file: /etc/xmame/xmamerc
ignoring line
error: unknown option fuzzycmp, on line 33 of file: /etc/xmame/xmamerc
ignoring line
error: unknown option skip_disclaimer, on line 35 of file: /etc/xmame/xmamerc
ignoring line
info: trying to parse: /home/kwstas/.xmame/xmamerc
info: trying to parse: /etc/xmame/xmame-x11rc
info: trying to parse: /home/kwstas/.xmame/xmame-x11rc
info: trying to parse: /etc/xmame/rc/rastanrc
info: trying to parse: /home/kwstas/.xmame/rc/rastanrc
xmame: could not connect to socket
xmame: No such file or directory
LIRC disabled
loading rom 0: b04-35.19
loading rom 1: b04-37.07
loading rom 2: b04-40.20
loading rom 3: b04-39.08
loading rom 4: b04-42.21
loading rom 5: b04-43.09
loading rom 6: b04-19.49
loading rom 7: b04-01.40
loading rom 8: b04-03.39
loading rom 9: b04-02.67
loading rom 10: b04-04.66
loading rom 11: b04-05.15
loading rom 12: b04-07.14
loading rom 13: b04-06.28
loading rom 14: b04-08.27
loading rom 15: b04-20.76
done
info: set to 16bit linear stereo 44100Hz
info: sysdep_dsp: using alsa plugin
info: sysdep_mixer: using alsa plugin
MIT-SHM Extension Available. trying to use... Success.
Using Shared Memory Features to speed up
Initialized no effect: bitmap depth = 16, color format = RGB 565
Posts: 89
Stuart O'mahony
Joined: 07 Mar 2010
#9
There are graphical frontends for xmame (in the repos) but I never use them so can't help you much i'm afraid. I'm not sure that cloned games show up on these either, but I could be wrong.

You can go fullscreen and add scanlines by typing a command as follows:

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xmame --fullscreen nameofgame --effect 8
(there are different effect #s, but I like 8 )

I'd ask what you're playing, but probably not such a good idea __{{emoticon}}__
Last edited by Stuart O'mahony on 01 Mar 2011, 21:42, edited 1 time in total.
Posts: 89
Stuart O'mahony
Joined: 07 Mar 2010
#10
If you mean its complaining about xmamerc then I get the same thing. (I guess xmame just can't, or elects not to do what's at those lines.)

As for the missing openGL libraries, try installing libgl1-mesa-dev.

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apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#11
I do a end around to play games in dosbox in Antix. I download the free games from
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linktext was:"http://www.classicdosgames.com/all.html"
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and
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url was:"http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/"
linktext was:"http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/"
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. I pick the freeware games mostly. I make a directory in /home in rox and name it oldgames. Every game before I download it I make a directory in /home/oldgames and give it the name of that game. I extract the game zip in that game folder.

Then set the run action as /usr/bin/dosbox for the .exe file. I do this on my IBM A22m 1000hz, 256MB ram, 700MB /swap, Antix 8.5 wheezy Laptop. Works OK for some games. Some run too fast (mushroom, it's like centipede). Others run slow but run (like clone invader). Like I said. A end run around.



Works for me.
Posts: 80
kwstas
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
#12
yeah i already use dosbox and runs great though i also love to"insert" unlimited"coins" and play as much as i like the arcade games that i was playing in the past! __{{emoticon}}__

i was trying to find the configuration file of xmame but i was so unlucky... doesn't exist??

i think a frontend would make things easier not only for me but also for other people who might use the same system but aren't very comfortable with the command line etc.
i guess i could just make a script for this but there would be more than 300 games-scripts.

EDIT:

i found these

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url was:"http://www.articleworld.org/index.php/How_to_install_and_configure_Xmame"
linktext was:"http://www.articleworld.org/index.php/H ... gure_Xmame"
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========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://www.bglug.ca/articles/xmame.pdf"
linktext was:"http://www.bglug.ca/articles/xmame.pdf"
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but i cant test anything yet...
A better choice is to set up some low resolutions display modes in
your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file
i guess it's xorg.conf now, right?
Posts: 89
Stuart O'mahony
Joined: 07 Mar 2010
#13
Yeah, I took a read of that .pdf the XF86Config file would be for the XFree86 fork of Xorg, but without looking I don't know what this corresponding file would be. I guess the resolutions for some of these old arcade games are so low that they're not even offered up as options on your modern day PC!

Whatever config file grandr refers to is my guess.
Posts: 80
kwstas
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
#14
so... the first link told me how to make the configuration file!

xmame starts in minimized window(default game's mode and then with alt+home/alt+ins i can resize the window!
i've tried one game only(rastan!!) until now and the speed/sound seems fine.

a problem is that when i start xmame fullscreen, it crashes and i have to reboot!

regarding the opengl message, could it be that i dont have opengl enabled or something?
do i need to install the .dev package? i ask because i think it's not stable and apt asked me 2 times for confirmation...!
Posts: 89
Stuart O'mahony
Joined: 07 Mar 2010
#15
You really only need to create xmamerc if you're compiling from source, or if it isn't included as part of the pre-built binaries downloaded from a package manager. Like the author of that .pdf, you have it already at /etc/xmame/

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cat /etc/xmame/xmamerc
(/etc is typically -thought not exclusively! - used for config files)

I just ran a reinstall of libgl1-mesa-dev and it ran fine with just the one prompt. What is yours showing? (post the results)