Posts: 1,139
masinick
Joined: 26 Apr 2008
#1
Anti, I am getting this second hand, but in the interests of making both antiX and SimplyMEPIS the best that they can be, I want to track this and see if there is anything that we can do about it.

You know Tim Miller, (tlmiller) at the USALUG. He is one who tests and installs a lot of distros. He has taken Red Hat courses in systems administration and certification, and he has received at least one certification, so he's no dummy.

He has also conquered Arch Linux and regularly uses it on several of his systems. Finally, he is a sidux fan, so that puts him on my side of the fence.

Unfortunately, he has never had very good success with SimplyMEPIS or antiX. Because of his past lack of success, I don't think he puts much time or effort into testing either of them, but he does have his reasons. You see, he tells me that the synaptics touch pad settings that are the default in most distributions work the way he would expect them to work with little, if any modifications. Those modifications that he does like to make, he can propagate around pretty easily by copying that section of the xorg.conf configuration from a working system.

He says that with antiX, when he does that, the settings are ignored. Now I am not sure if he is restarting the X server or not after he makes his changes. I can only
assume that he has done so, given his background and experience.

I would like to take this one seriously and see if there is any kind of investigation that we can do into the root cause of what Tim is seeing. I do have a Gateway PA6A laptop that has a pretty erratic and touchy Synaptics touch pad. Perhaps it would make a good place for me to test.

I will ask Tim to send me a copy of the relevant sections of his working xorg.conf file. I will save the one on my Gateway then apply Tim's changes and see what effect they have - using sidux, then using antiX and see what happens.

I'd love it if we can work together on this and come up with something that will turn Tim into a convert. He likes easy stuff, so if we can get antiX and SimplyMEPIS working right with Synaptics touch pads for Tim, he will be a useful advocate to our cause - a stubborn one, but once sold, one that is sold out completely. That is a good advocate to have - one not easily sold!

Can we work together on this? I'll try to get the details as soon as I can, then test them out on the Gateway and report my findings.
Posts: 1,139
masinick
Joined: 26 Apr 2008
#2
Here is the relevant xorg.conf section from Tim's config. I will play around with it and see if I can come up with anything that would help us out.

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Section"InputDevice"
   Identifier  "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad 0"
   Driver     "synaptics"
   Option     "Device"     "/dev/input/mice"
   Option     "Protocol"     "auto-dev"
   Option     "SHMConfig"     "on"
   Option     "LeftEdge"     "120"
   Option     "RightEdge"     "5590"
   Option     "TopEdge"     "120"
   Option     "BottomEdge"     "4750"
   Option     "FingerLow"     "14"
   Option     "FingerHigh"     "15"
   Option     "MaxTapTime"     "0"
   Option     "MaxTapMove"     "0"
   Option     "EmulateMidButtonTime"  "75"
   Option     "VertScrollDelta"  "50"
   Option     "HorizScrollDelta"  "50"
   Option     "MinSpeed"     "0.06"
   Option     "MaxSpeed"     "0.20"
   Option     "AccelFactor"     "0.0015"
   Option     "EdgeMotionMinSpeed"  "15"
   Option     "EdgeMotionMaxSpeed"  "15"
   Option     "UpDownScrolling"  "1"
   Option     "CircularScrolling"  "1"
   Option     "CircScrollDelta"  "0.1"
   Option     "CircScrollTrigger"  "2"
   Option     "CorePointer"
EndSection
Posts: 516
oldhoghead
Site Admin
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
#3
Brian,

I had similar problems with my touchpad, here's what I did, don't know why his won't stick, but have a look:


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linktext was:"antix.freeforu ms.org/synaptic-to ... -t949.html"
====================================
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

cheers,
oldhoghead
Posts: 1,520
eriefisher
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
#4
I too had some touchpad issues. This what I found out. I put"i8042.nomux=1" in the boot codes of grub, I don't think it solved the problem but it did seem to tame the touchpad. Also here is my section of xorg.conf.

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Section"InputDevice"
  Identifier"Touchpad"
  Driver"synaptics"
  Option"Device""/dev/psaux"
  Option"Protocol""auto-dev"
  Option"LeftEdge""1700"
  Option"RightEdge""5300"
  Option"TopEdge""1700"
  Option"BottomEdge""4200"
  Option"FingerLow""25"
  Option"FingerHigh""30"
  Option"MaxTapTime""180"
  Option"MaxTapMove""220"
  Option"VertScrollDelta""100"
  Option"HorizScrollDelta""0"
  Option"MinSpeed""0.09"
  Option"MaxSpeed""0.18"
  Option"AccelFactor""0.0015"
  Option"SHMConfig""true"
EndSection
Posts: 253
mariel77
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
#5
My touchpad xorg.conf section is the same as eriefisher's. My PIII Dell Latitude doesn't recover from either Hibernate or Suspend (from Control Center) in antiX M8-public -test1. I have not tried erie's grub boot code yet though.

- Do any of you have the VBERestore line in your xorg.conf? I looked at some example xorg.conf's and it seems that they all have it.

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Section"Device"
             Identifier"intel graphics controller"   
             Driver "intel"
            [ ... ]
            Option"VBERestore""true"
- Also in you monitor sections what do you have for the line with
Option"DPMS" ?
Thanks.
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Posts: 1,520
eriefisher
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
#6
Nothing with intel graphics I'm afraid but:

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Section"Monitor"
  Identifier"Monitor0"
  VendorName"unknown"
  ModelName"unknown"
  Option"DPMS""true"
  HorizSync    30-75
  VertRefresh  55-70
Posts: 253
mariel77
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
#7
Thanks for the DPMS section. So you don't have a VBERestore line in any of your Device sections?
I'm just trying to figure out what seems to matter most. Thanks.
Posts: 1,520
eriefisher
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
#8
It seems to be just an Intel graphics thing. There is plenty mention of it in bug reports.
Posts: 253
mariel77
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
#9
eriefisher wrote:I too had some touchpad issues. This what I found out. I put"i8042.nomux=1" in the boot codes of grub, I don't think it solved the problem but it did seem to tame the touchpad. Also here is my section of xorg.conf.
I tried adding"i8042.nomux=1" to my grub line, and it really works great for me! My touchpad is very stable now. Thanks.

I'm still working on the suspend and hibernate.