topic title: Installing Antix 16 Core Without Wired Connection
Posts: 48
myway_1
Joined: 26 Oct 2016
#1
Hello,

I know it states in the documentation that you need a wired connection initially to use the core version of antiX 16.

My computer does not have an ethernet port.

Is there a way that I could download wicd ahead of time then move it to the live USB, install wicd and set up a wifi connection?

If so, what would the steps be?

Thanks!

Edit: I have a Panda wifi dongle with a Ralink chip that's supposed to be linux-friendly. AntiX 16 base is installed on the PC's internal drive.
anticapitalista
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Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#2
core comes with ceni so you can use that to set up wireless. But if your wifi dongle needs non-free or contrib firmware then it won't work.
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myway_1
Joined: 26 Oct 2016
#3
anticapitalista wrote:core comes with ceni so you can use that to set up wireless. But if your wifi dongle needs non-free or contrib firmware then it won't work.
Thanks. I tried ceni and it returns error messages immediately after I click on"scan" (I had successfully used ceni to connect to wifi with antiX 16 base using this same wifi adapter without having to get any additional firmware)

The documentation with the adapter says it is plug and play on Mint, Ubuntu and Fedora.

Edit: I do have a mini DVD that came with the adapter but my computer doesn't have an optical drive. My other computer has an optical drive but it is a 32 bit machine whereas the computer on which I want to install core is a 64 bit machine.
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myway_1
Joined: 26 Oct 2016
#4
The DVD only has a driver for Fedora. I'm sure they will email me whatever driver/firmware I need. Would that be of any help?

Edit: I just went to their website and they say it is plug and play for debian
anticapitalista
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#5
Does Fedora use a libre kernel? That might be what it the issue, not if it is plug and play on a 'standard' kernel that includes binary blobs (non-free)
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myway_1
Joined: 26 Oct 2016
#6
I have emailed Panda Wireless customer support. I told them that I am using a libre kernel and have no wired connection.
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hobbyist7890
Joined: 24 Apr 2016
#7
Hi again, myway_1-

I plan to use the libre-core dist also next week. I have added a few packages to my install USB that are missing from the libre-core to get my wifi to work.
While I was doing that I found a deb here that might have the driver you need for the ralink depending on the chip used:

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Package: firmware-misc-nonfree
Source: firmware-nonfree
Version: 20160824-1
Installed-Size: 7044
Maintainer: Debian Kernel Team <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: all
Replaces: firmware-adi, firmware-ivtv (<< 0.38~), firmware-linux (<< 0.19), firmware-linux-nonfree (<< 20151018-1~), firmware-ralink
Provides: firmware-adi, firmware-ralink
Suggests: initramfs-tools
Breaks: firmware-adi, firmware-ivtv (<< 0.38~), firmware-linux (<< 0.19), firmware-linux-nonfree (<< 20151018-1~), firmware-ralink
Description-en: Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel
 This package contains the binary firmware for  various drivers in the
 Linux kernel.  This is a collection of firmware blobs which are not
 individually large enough to warrant a standalone package.
 .
 Contents:
  * 3Com Typhoon firmware, version 03.001.008 (3com/typhoon.bin)
  * AdvanSys ASC-3550 firmware (advansys/3550.bin)
  * AdvanSys ASC-38C0800 firmware (advansys/38C0800.bin)
  * AdvanSys ASC-38C1600 firmware (advansys/38C1600.bin)
  * AdvanSys SCSI controller microcode (advansys/mcode.bin)
  * Agere/Prism/Symbol Orinoco firmware (AP mode), version 9.48 Hermes I
    (agere_ap_fw.bin)
  * Agere/Prism/Symbol Orinoco firmware (STA mode), version 9.48 Hermes
    I (agere_sta_fw.bin)
  * Abilis Systems AS102 stage 1 firmware (as102_data1_st.hex)
  * Abilis Systems AS102 stage 2 firmware (as102_data2_st.hex)
  * Creative CA0132 DSP firmware (ctefx.bin)
  * Creative CA0132 SpeakerEQ firmware (ctspeq.bin)
  * Chelsio T3 optical EDC firmware (AEL2005 PHY)
    (cxgb3/ael2005_opt_edc.bin)
  * Chelsio T3 twinax EDC firmware (AEL2005 PHY)
    (cxgb3/ael2005_twx_edc.bin)
  * Chelsio T3 twinax EDC firmware (AEL2020 PHY)
    (cxgb3/ael2020_twx_edc.bin)
  * Chelsio T3B protocol engine firmware, version 1.1.0
    (cxgb3/t3b_psram-1.1.0.bin)
  * Chelsio T3C protocol engine firmware, version 1.1.0
    (cxgb3/t3c_psram-1.1.0.bin)
  * Chelsio T3 main firmware, version 7.4.0 (cxgb3/t3fw-7.4.0.bin)
  * Chelsio T3 main firmware, version 7.10.0 (cxgb3/t3fw-7.10.0.bin)
  * Chelsio T3 main firmware, version 7.12.0 (cxgb3/t3fw-7.12.0.bin)
  * Chelsio T4 10GBASE-T firmware (AQ1202 PHY) (cxgb4/aq1202_fw.cld)
  * Chelsio T4 10GBASE-T firmware (BCM84834 PHY) (cxgb4/bcm8483.bin)
  * Chelsio T4 firmware, version 1.15.37.0 (cxgb4/t4fw-1.15.37.0.bin,
    cxgb4/t4fw.bin)
  * Chelsio T5 firmware, version 1.15.37.0 (cxgb4/t5fw-1.15.37.0.bin,
    cxgb4/t5fw.bin)
  * DAB-USB FPGA bitfile (dabusb/bitstream.bin)
  * DAB-USB firmware (dabusb/firmware.fw)
  * Xceive 4000 tuner firmware, version 1.4.1 (dvb-fe-xc4000-1.4.1.fw)
  * Xceive 5000 tuner firmware, version 1.6.114
    (dvb-fe-xc5000-1.6.114.fw)
  * Xceive 5000c tuner firmware, version 4.1.30.7
    (dvb-fe-xc5000c-4.1.30.7.fw)
  * DiBcom dib0700 USB DVB bridge firmware, version 1.20
    (dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw)
  * DiBcom dib9135 DVB-T USB firmware (dvb-usb-it9135-01.fw)
  * DiBcom dib9135 DVB-T USB firmware (dvb-usb-it9135-02.fw)
  * Terratec H5 DRX-K firmware (dvb-usb-terratec-h5-drxk.fw)
  * Intel 82559 D101M microcode (e100/d101m_ucode.bin)
  * Intel 82559 D101S microcode (e100/d101s_ucode.bin)
  * Intel 82551-F and 82551-10 microcode (e100/d102e_ucode.bin)
  * ENE UB6250 MS Pro read/write firmware (ene-ub6250/msp_rdwr.bin)
  * ENE UB6250 MS init firmware (ene-ub6250/ms_init.bin)
  * ENE UB6250 MS read/write firmware (ene-ub6250/ms_rdwr.bin)
  * ENE UB6250 SD init stage 1 firmware (ene-ub6250/sd_init1.bin)
  * ENE UB6250 SD init stage 2 firmware (ene-ub6250/sd_init2.bin)
  * ENE UB6250 SD read/write firmware (ene-ub6250/sd_rdwr.bin)
  * Sensoray 2255 firmware (f2255usb.bin)
  * Micronas GO7007SB encoder stage 1 firmware (go7007/go7007fw.bin)
  * Micronas GO7007SB encoder stage 2 firmware (go7007/go7007tv.bin)
  * WISchip WinFast WalkieTV firmware (go7007/lr192.fw)
  * Plextor ConvertX M402U firmware (go7007/px-m402u.fw)
  * Plextor ConvertX TV402U firmware (go7007/px-tv402u.fw)
  * Sensoray S2250 stage 1 firmware (go7007/s2250-1.fw, s2250_loader.fw)
  * Sensoray S2250 stage 2 firmware (go7007/s2250-2.fw, s2250.fw)
  * WISchip WinFast WalkieTV firmware (go7007/wis-startrek.fw)
  * Intel"Broxton" DMC firmware, version 1.07
    (i915/bxt_dmc_ver1_07.bin, i915/bxt_dmc_ver1.bin)
  * Intel"Skylake" DMC firmware, version 1.23
    (i915/skl_dmc_ver1_23.bin)
  * Intel"Skylake" DMC firmware, version 1.26
    (i915/skl_dmc_ver1_26.bin, i915/skl_dmc_ver1.bin)
  * Intel"Skylake" GuC firmware, version 1.1059 (i915/skl_guc_ver1.bin)
  * Intel"Skylake" GuC firmware, version 4.3 (i915/skl_guc_ver4.bin)
  * kaweth/new_code.bin
  * kaweth/new_code_fix.bin
  * kaweth/trigger_code.bin
  * kaweth/trigger_code_fix.bin
  * Matrox G200 WARP engine microcode (matrox/g200_warp.fw)
  * Matrox G400/G550 WARP engine microcode (matrox/g400_warp.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1110 firmware (moxa/moxa-1110.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1130 firmware (moxa/moxa-1130.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1130I firmware (moxa/moxa-1131.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1150 firmware (moxa/moxa-1150.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1150I firmware (moxa/moxa-1151.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1250 firmware (moxa/moxa-1250.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1250I firmware (moxa/moxa-1251.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1410 firmware (moxa/moxa-1410.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1450 firmware (moxa/moxa-1450.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1450I firmware (moxa/moxa-1451.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1610-16 firmware (moxa/moxa-1613.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1610-8 firmware (moxa/moxa-1618.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1650-16 firmware (moxa/moxa-1653.fw)
  * MOXA UPort 1650-8 firmware (moxa/moxa-1658.fw)
  * MediaTek MT7601U firmware, version 34 (mt7601u.bin)
  * MediaTek MT7630/MT7650 Bluetooth firmware (mt7650.bin)
  * Multi-Tech USB CDMA modem firmware (mts_cdma.fw)
  * Multi-Tech USB EDGE modem firmware (mts_edge.fw)
  * Multi-Tech USB GPRS modem firmware (mts_gsm.fw)
  * Nvidia GK20A FECS firmware data (nvidia/gk20a/fecs_data.bin)
  * Nvidia GK20A FECS firmware instructions (nvidia/gk20a/fecs_inst.bin)
  * Nvidia GK20A GPCCS firmware data (nvidia/gk20a/gpccs_data.bin)
  * Nvidia GK20A GPCCS firmware instructions
    (nvidia/gk20a/gpccs_inst.bin)
  * Nvidia GK20A bundle init data (nvidia/gk20a/sw_bundle_init.bin)
  * Nvidia GK20A ctx init data (nvidia/gk20a/sw_ctx.bin)
  * Nvidia GK20A method init data (nvidia/gk20a/sw_method_init.bin)
  * Nvidia GK20A non-ctx init data (nvidia/gk20a/sw_nonctx.bin)
  * Nvidia Tegra 124 XHCI firmware, version 45.46
    (nvidia/tegra124/xusb.bin)
  * Nvidia Tegra 210 XHCI firmware, version 50.10
    (nvidia/tegra210/xusb.bin)
  * Intel QAT DH895xCC UOF firmware (qat_895xcc.bin)
  * Intel QAT DH895xCC MMP firmware (qat_895xcc_mmp.bin, qat_mmp.bin)
  * Intel QAT C3xxx UOF firmware (qat_c3xxx.bin)
  * Intel QAT C3xxx MMP firmware (qat_c3xxx_mmp.bin)
  * Intel QAT C62x UOF firmware (qat_c62x.bin)
  * Intel QAT C62x MMP firmware (qat_c62x_mmp.bin)
  * Comtrol RocketPort 2 firmware (rp2.fw)
  * Ralink RT2561 (RT2501/RT5201 chipset) firmware, version 1.2
    (rt2561.bin)
  * Ralink RT2561S (RT2501 Turbo/RT5201 Turbo chipset) firmware, version
    1.2 (rt2561s.bin)
  * Ralink RT2661 (RT2600/RT5600 chipset) firmware, version 1.2
    (rt2661.bin)
  * Ralink RT2760/RT2790/RT2860/RT2890/RT3090
    (RT2700P[D]/RT2700E[D]/RT2800P[D]/RT2800E[D]/RT3000E[D] chipset)
    firmware, version 0.40 (rt2860.bin, rt3090.bin)
  * Ralink RT2870/RT3070/RT3071/RT3072 (RT2800U[D] chipset) firmware,
    version 0.36 (rt2870.bin, rt3070.bin)
  * Ralink RT3071/RT3072 firmware, version 29 (rt3071.bin)
  * Ralink RT3290 firmware, version 1 (rt3290.bin)
  * Ralink RT2571W/RT2671 (RT2501USB/RT5201USB chipset) firmware,
    version 1.8 (rt73.bin)
  * Tehuti network card firmware (tehuti/bdx.bin)
  * Broadcom BCM5703/BCM5704 TSO firmware (tigon/tg3_tso.bin)
  * Broadcom BCM5701A0 firmware (tigon/tg3.bin)
  * Broadcom BCM5705 TSO firmware (tigon/tg3_tso5.bin)
  * Broadcom BCM57766 firmware (tigon/tg357766.bin)
  * ADI Eagle IV ADSL configuration, generic (ueagle-atm/CMV4p.bin.v2)
  * ADI Eagle IV ADSL DSP firmware (ueagle-atm/DSP4p.bin)
  * ADI Eagle IV firmware (ueagle-atm/eagleIV.fw)
  * Conexant CX231xx core firmware (v4l-cx231xx-avcore-01.fw)
  * Conexant CX23418 APU firmware (v4l-cx23418-apu.fw)
  * Conexant CX23418 CPU firmware (v4l-cx23418-cpu.fw)
  * Conexant CX23418 ADEC firmware (v4l-cx23418-dig.fw)
  * Conexant CX25840 firmware (v4l-cx25840.fw)
  * Conexant CX23885 core firmware (v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw)
  * VIA VT6656 firmware (vntwusb.fw)
Description-md5: 7383f27abb7ec9e2835f67adcdf56219
Multi-Arch: foreign
Homepage: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git
Tag: admin::hardware, role::app-data, use::driver
Section: non-free/kernel
Priority: optional
Filename: pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-misc-nonfree_20160824-1_all.deb
Size: 2164586
MD5sum: 8c55f49933b11fb497166598503fb9bb
SHA256: 2a5f15be53695922feeeab7067670c5b6d3fa41c2eae3d2aed5c13b3d1f7fc1e
If this firmware is made for your chip then you can just install that package.

I also think the libre kernel will complain about the non-free firmware and if so then you would need a different kernel. I would recommend switching to the linux-image-4.6.2-antix-sid.1-amd64-smp and not the gnu libre kernel.

If you want to try those then you can get those files from the antix and debian servers. I would recommend not using the core-libre for this reason and because there will be very few included programs. The base dist should have everything you need from the beginning so that would be easier. The base dist should be very happy with 1 gigabyte of memory and only needs a little more storage space than the core-libre. You probably already have the extra megabytes available now.

I hope you noticed where my previous posts should have referred to the /usr/local/bin/live-usb-maker and not the /usr/local/bin/antix2usb to make a UEFI bootable USB stick. I tried to correct all of my errors for doing so. Sorry about the mistake.
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myway_1
Joined: 26 Oct 2016
#8
Thanks hobbyist. I am using base already and it works great. I just like the idea of building my own desktop. I hope to learn more about linux by doing a hands-on project. I may go with arch linux for that project because they have such great documentation. But I'd rather use antiX. Problem is without extensive instructions, I am lost because I have been taking the slacker path of Microsoft Windows for the past 20 years.
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#9
Have you got room for more than just core?
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myway_1
Joined: 26 Oct 2016
#10
thriftee wrote:Have you got room for more than just core?

Yes
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#11
Why not install the full version, then after getting it running, shutdown X and remove X and that would cause all the graphical programs to be removed with it?

It would be easier if you use a wifi dongle that has drivers that are already in the full antiX.

I am basically suggesting that you could theoretically remove the system back to core packages and wifi one package at a time. It would take a lot of time and effort, I think.

Arch does have docs that you can follow to build the whole thing from scratch, but it takes a lot of time and effort to do, assuming its similar to 10 years ago when I did it a few times till I got it right.
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Dave
Joined: 20 Jan 2010
#12
Like what hobbyist7890 is saying are you able to download files from the other computer and transfer them over with usb?
If so then I would say to download the kernel talked about from here


========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://antix.daveserver.info/jessie/pool/main/l/linux-4.6.2-antix.1-amd64-smp/"
linktext was:"http://antix.daveserver.info/jessie/poo ... amd64-smp/"
====================================


Both files and when you have them on the usb in the machine you are working on run

dpkg -i file1
dpkg -i file2
update-grub

as root, reboot and select the new kernel.
If it works apt-get purge old-kernel
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myway_1
Joined: 26 Oct 2016
#13
Thanks folks. All good suggestions. I now feel that I can get this done one way or another.