topic title: In Praise/Defence IceWM
Posts: 137
duncan_mk
Joined: 19 Sep 2012
#1
In the Speed thread, Bestusernameever says:
PS don't tell me to put icewn on for some reason I just can't stand it.
and dolphin_oracle says:
I've never liked icewm either
I started using antiX last September and am completely sold on IceWM. Before I used antiX I had never used IceWM and I now run it on a 3/4 Yr old Dell netbook (see below for spec.) and have managed to set it up to run pretty much like KDE3.

It makes my dishes cleaner, my laundry whiter, my teeth stronger & increases my sex drive. What more could you want from a Window Manager?

dmk __{{emoticon}}__

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dmk-antiX@antiXdell:~
$ inxi -zF  (thanks Roky, I've never tried -zF before)
System:    Host: antiXdell Kernel: 3.5.0-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-full Edelweißpiraten 22 August 2012
Machine:   Mobo: Dell model: CN0Y53 version: A06 Bios: Dell version: A06 date: 07/29/2009
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom CPU N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY driver: b43-pci-bridge 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 64.0GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: OCZ size: 64.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 57G used: 6.7G (13%) fs: ext3 ID: swap-1 size: 2.17GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 90 Uptime: 54 min Memory: 215.2/999.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.32
Posts: 46
Bestusernameever
Joined: 16 Jan 2013
#2
Icewn is good i'll give it that but to me Lxde is easier to use and it is for me. To even add a simple shortcut to the desktop was a challenge at first for me when I had icewn. I also had a computer running lubuntu for a while so I know a few things about lxde. For me LXDE all the way.
(Lxde runs pretty fast on this computer too.)

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System:    Host: Fahim Kernel: 3.6.11-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.5.0) Distro: antiX-13-beta1_386-base Ahmad Sami 8 February 2013
Machine:   System: Dell product: Dimension 4600i
           Mobo: Dell model: 0F4491 Bios: Dell version: A09 date: 02/20/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-UP-) cache: 512 KB flags: (pae sse sse2) clocked at 2793.196 MHz 
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@59.8hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0 Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller driver: e100 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Ralink RT5370 Wireless Adapter driver: rt2800usb 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 582.1GB (0.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: Maxtor_6Y080P0 size: 82.0GB 
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: 5000AAC_External size: 500.1GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 74G used: 2.6G (4%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 2.17GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 74 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 141.2/500.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.34
Posts: 765
rust collector
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
#3
I seem to be an icewm person too... It just suit my small machine(screen) and my use.
I don't do much heavy work, mostly browsing, and some times...uh, don't remember.
I use console apps as much as I can for things like playing music (moc) and rtorrent to get the music, and iso files, so that doesn't matter when it comes to the window managers.
That is just because I want to try something, not a recommendation...at all.

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antieee Kernel: 3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: Microsoft Windows 98 date: 09 November 1998
Machine:   System: ASUSTeK product: X101CH version: x.x
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X101CH version: x.xx Bios: American Megatrends version: X101CH.1203 date: 07/30/2012
CPU:       Dual core Intel Atom CPU N2600 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 512 KB flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 600.00 MHz 2: 600.00 MHz 3: 600.00 MHz 4: 1600.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: fbdev,vesa (unloaded: intel) Resolution: 1024x600@0.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 94:db:c9:a2:03:05
           Card-2: Atheros AR8152 v2.0 Fast Ethernet driver: atl1c 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: c8:60:00:43:a5:02
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST320LT020 size: 320.1GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 46G used: 3.3G (8%) fs: ext4 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 69.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 120 Uptime: 2:01 Memory: 236.1/996.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.32

LOL __{{emoticon}}__
Posts: 4,164
rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#4
I can do the Fluxbox or Icewm dance with the best of ya. I can run Lxpanels, wbar, tint2, in Fluxbox or Trick out Icewm to look like a old Bikers poster.

I setup LXDE in AntiX 8.5 core install. It was a pain in the butt finding out hal needed being installed to get the shutdown buttons to work and dealing
with Debians older PCManFM that siamese's in with a LXDE installation. I had to use xdm login manager after slim broke on that install but
I still am running that hard drive on that Amrel Laptop.

One of the Latest installs

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$ inxi -F -z
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.6.11-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit) 
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.2 Distro: antiX-13-beta1_x64-base Ahmad Sami 7 February 2013
Machine:   Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 5534 version: V1.10 Bios: Acer version: V1.10 date: 08/26/2009
CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon X2 L310 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 svm) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1197.074 MHz 2: 1197.074 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780M/RS780MN [Mobility Radeon HD 3200 Graphics] 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network:   Card-1: Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (1.0% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK2555GS size: 250.1GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 7.7G used: 2.0G (27%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 88G used: 363M (1%) fs: btrfs 
           ID: swap-1 size: 2.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0C mobo: 0.0C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 108 Uptime: 2:55 Memory: 411.0/3704.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.34
but untricked out endevors. When this baby goes final. Then the special sauce will be spread on.


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Posts: 137
duncan_mk
Joined: 19 Sep 2012
#5
@rc - For interest's sake, there's one thing I don't quite get:

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antieee Kernel: 3.7.1-antix.3-486-smp i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: Microsoft Windows 98 date: 09 November 1998
You seem to be running an antiX kernel on an MS distro. I'm guessing that W98 was the system installed when you got the machine - is that fact persisting deep in the ROM? Is your machine dual booting or what?

Just, as I say, interested is all!

dmk __{{emoticon}}__
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,955
Site Admin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#6
duncan_mk - he is tricking you __{{emoticon}}__

He edited the etc/antiX-version file.

But, well spotted!
Posts: 765
rust collector
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
#7
Yep, I lied!

And I didn't do anything that complicated, anti... I just changed it before I posted on the forum.

Ok, it is antix 12.5 full
Posts: 137
duncan_mk
Joined: 19 Sep 2012
#8
Oh dear - what a naughty boy!

dmk __{{emoticon}}__
Posts: 765
rust collector
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
#9
__{{emoticon}}__ sorry __{{emoticon}}__
Posts: 137
duncan_mk
Joined: 19 Sep 2012
#10
Accepted

dmk