Have you tried using Pale Moon?

I'm using it at the moment and it seems to be ok.

i haven't managed to get it installed. i used a method from phoronix, it gives an error and aborts the installation process.
also because i don't use a vanilla firefox i need it to be compatible with the addons and scripts that i use.
some developers dropped the earlier versions of their scripts and use the new australis look.

anticapitalista wrote:Have you tried using Pale Moon?

I'm using it at the moment and it seems to be ok.

PaleMoon is really not"ok".
Beyond serving as an ego trip for moonchild, it provides little value.

Moonchild has blatantly refused to share his build mozconfig,
encourages scouts to report any rebuilt"illegal redistributions" of PM...
...and in the latest version of PM, has changed the app GUID
(intentionally"breaking" myriad addons, primarily motivated by his desire to be"recognized")

Tor Browser is the superior choice (vs Pale Moon).
If desired, user can disable the pre-installed tor-related extensions
and can launch the browser directly (directly from its 'firefox' executable, rather than via the TB launcher).
This results in having a slightly hardened (in source code) browser available instead of, or in addition to, the stock firefox/iceweasel browser.

Although I doubt my"privacy fanatic mindset" has been evident in my posts to antiX forum, yeah, I am"all about privacy".
(privacy, as in, distinctly separate from"security" considerations)
FWIW, no, I don't use tor often (BigData is my boogeyman, not MITM, not NSA)
With that in mind, and toward giving PM credit where due, I will point out that, compared to firefox 24esr
which ships with nearly 200 prefs/values which I regard as"privacy unfriendly"...
...the equivalent TorBrowser version shipped with about 130"privacy unfriendly" pref values,
and the equivalent PM version shipped with only about 80 prefs preset to"privacy unfriendly" default values.

ULTIMATELY, the choice of PM (or TorBrowser) vs stock ff/iceweasel represents a false dichotomy.
If you wade through the source code, you'll discover that Mozilla is not NOT not your friend...
...and neither torproject nor palemoon have sufficiently amended the mozilla codebase to nix the myriad inbuilt"potential backdoors".

skidoo wrote:.....compared to firefox 24esr
which ships with nearly 200 prefs/values which I regard as"privacy unfriendly"...
...the equivalent TorBrowser version shipped with about 130"privacy unfriendly" pref values,
and the equivalent PM version shipped with only about 80 prefs preset to"privacy unfriendly" default values.

Wow. 200 settings? Sheesh, I'm probably only familiar with a few of them. I have a kind of a thing about big data myself, and for someone who does I'm pretty ignorant about protecting myself out here while surfing... I'd be curious as to your privacy-friendly Firefox setup. I had no idea there were so many privacy-related settings... Are they all user configurable, thru about:config or prefs file or some such?

Have you tried using Pale Moon?

I did but something about it. I cannot say what, just made me go with uninstalling it instead.
I did not use it long.

I have been dabbling with Opera instead.


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fleabus, yes, the counts I mentioned reflect prefs settable via"about:config"

"privacy related setup"? That's a really deep rabbit hole, and I'm not up to the task of attempting a tutorial.

Specific to preferences, a google search"mozilla pref.name.here" for a given preference usually points here as a top result:

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and I suggest bookmarking these as pref lookup references.

For discussions about (and arguments about) which default values for specific prefs should be changed, and why,
it will be enlightening for you to skim the articles (and comments) at ghacks.net
as well as the privacy subforums at wilderssecurity.com

Another bookmark, for additional reference;

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The author of this site (blog?) posts a"diff", a table, showing changed values and newly introduced prefs for each new firefox release.

rokytnji wrote:I did but something about it. I cannot say what, just made me go with uninstalling it instead.
I did not use it long.

Same here. I tried it months ago over at Solyd, and it didn't work out. I was back and forth with NightWing to the PM forums. It turned out to be a theming issue (oxygen-gtk). I've since tried it again recently using a different theme, and it worked fine, but as you say it didn't grab me...

skidoo wrote:
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.... skim the articles (and comments) at ghacks.net
as well as the privacy subforums at wilderssecurity.com....


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Good info, Thanks skidoo, for pointing me in the right direction; I should have been on top of all this a long time ago. I remember hanging out a lot on Wilders back in the working days, they're definitely a good security resource, been around a very long time....

Yeah. Opera has been the bees knees for me so far. It is screaming fast compared to what I was used to.


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You know, I've never tried Opera. Been going back and forth between Firefox on the desktop and the mobile version of Chrome. I'll give Opera a shot too. Thanks Rok. __{{emoticon}}__

I haven't tried Pale Moon, but have tried Opera, and Opera was better than the big memory eater browsers.

But recently I tried the newest Qupzilla which downloaded and installed (Debian 32 bit version) perfectly onto my antiX 13.2 (with 3.2.0-4-486 Kernel and nVidia 96.) machine, and ran super light without any problems. Usually things don't"just work" like that...

Ok, I tried palemoon. I downloaded the current version and installed it in /opt according to instructions I found and linked it into /usr/bin. I then tried running it as myself and via su. Both attempts got me no sceen output and just an"illegal instruction" error in the termial session I ran it from. I found a message trhat might explain it on the puppy forum as follows:

wimpy


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As I understand it, my problem stems from Intel moving the goalposts with the Pentium4 - something to do with SSE2 and the floating point registers. AMD followed them after my CPU set. Google decided to abandon CPUs before the Pentium 4, and introduced the SSE2 requirement. It appears that palemoon has decided to follow Google and discard the"disable SSE2 flag" on compilation. Just another nail in the coffin for these old PCs! .

my inxi output is as follows PS: The newest version of Qupzilla 1.8.4 is working well enough to do all this copy/pasting and post this, so its working pretty well

PSS: So then I decided to try comparing Qupzilla with Opera. I'm at 115 mb of memory in use with opera editing this screen, and with Qupzilla doing the same thing I was at 150 mb in use, so Opera uses less memory, at least when on a website like this. I started with 69 mb in use according to conky. Anyway, either is an improvement memory usage wise over the big browsers.

thriftee wrote:....I tried palemoon. I downloaded the current version and installed it in /opt according to instructions ....then tried running it as myself and via su. Both attempts got me no sceen output and just an"illegal instruction" error

Sorry. I spaced this thread... __{{emoticon}}__

When I tried Pale Moon, I used the pminstaller script here:


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Worked a treat for me.

fleabus,

My guess is that you have a newer processor that is supported by palemoon. I have them on newer machines, but the Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop I typically use for antiX has a Pentium III m.

I had installed it using tar and linked it in as shown in the script you linked to.

thriftee wrote:My guess is that you have a newer processor that is supported by palemoon.

I'm sorry, you're right; I only glanced at your inxi. __{{emoticon}}__

I also have a couple of P3s, and yes, I'm using lighter fare on them too. Qupzilla currently, although I'm going to give Opera a try on them per you and Rok...
My P3s are the very last, tualatin core 1.4s, which is also a bit unfair. Their intel D815 boards max out at 512m.

Pale Moon I tried on my everyday/testing machine, a core2duo.

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