topic title: dist-upgrade 7Aug2014 13 Full iso
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
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$ inxi -Fxzr
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.12.1-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.7.3) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-13_386-full Luddite 01 June 2013 
Machine:   System: manda product: Intel powered classmate PC v: Gen 1.5L
           Mobo: N/A model: N/A
           Bios: American Megatrends v: CM94515A.86A.0024.2008.0715.1716 date: 07/15/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Core N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3192 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x600@53.3hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.2.1 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound: ALSA v: k3.12.1-antix.1-486-smp
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: ec00 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 63.3GB (59.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KingSpec_KSD size: 63.3GB temp: 0C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 59G used: 35G (64%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
           deb http://antix.daveserver.info/testing testing main
           Active apt sources in file: etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt sources in file: etc/apt/sources.list.d/siduction.list
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/base unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt sources in file: etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
           deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main
           deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-beta
           deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all
Info:      Processes: 103 Uptime: 13 min Memory: 333.1/2014.9MB 
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 3 Gcc sys: 4.9.0 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111) inxi: 2.1.28
Running smxi when I powered this on. I saw that 12 packages were going to be removed. system.d being one of them.

I have not thought this through yet. Brain kinda overheated from outside work. So I thought I'd let some clearer heads have a look see and tell me
if it safe for me to proceed?

Oh yeah, here is new error on me also. I already have slim uninstalled on this netbook and log in on init 3 screen with startx. I don't feel like totally
breaking this yet if I can get away with it.

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Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct
Now on to what will be removed.

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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gufw gvfs gvfs-daemons liblognorm0 libpam-systemd libvtv0 packagekit
  packagekit-backend-smart packagekit-tools policykit-1 systemd udisks2
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  init libass5 libepoxy0 libetpan17 libevdev2 libio-socket-ip-perl liblognorm1
  libparted-fs-resize0 libparted2 libpoppler46 libupower-glib2 libval14
And just so I leave no stone unturned in this thread

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The following packages will be upgraded:
  acpi-fakekey acpi-support acpi-support-base acpid alpine alsa-base alsa-oss
  alsa-tools alsa-utils apt apt-utils base-files binutils bluetooth bluez
  bzip2 cifs-utils claws-mail cpp cpp-4.7 cpp-4.8 cpp-4.9 cups cups-client
  cups-common cups-core-drivers cups-daemon cups-filters
  cups-filters-core-drivers cups-ppdc cups-server-common curl dbus dbus-x11
  dictionaries-common dosfstools e2fslibs e2fsprogs extlinux findutils
  fonts-opensymbol fusesmb gcc gcc-4.7 gcc-4.7-base gcc-4.8 gcc-4.8-base
  gcc-4.9 gcc-4.9-base genisoimage gettext gettext-base gir1.2-polkit-1.0
  glib-networking glib-networking-common glib-networking-services gnupg
  gnupg-agent gnupg-curl gnupg2 gparted gpgv groff-base
  gsettings-desktop-schemas gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gtk-redshift icedax
  init-system-helpers irssi isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common iso-codes kmod
  libaa1 libapt-inst1.5 libapt-pkg4.12 libasan0 libasan1 libasn1-8-heimdal
  libasound2 libasound2-data libasprintf0c2 libatk-bridge2.0-0 libatomic1
  libatspi2.0-0 libav-tools libavcodec55 libavdevice54 libavfilter4
  libavformat55 libavresample1 libavutil53 libbluetooth3 libbz2-1.0 libc-bin
  libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libcap2 libcap2-bin libcddb2 libcilkrts5
  libcomerr2 libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsfilters1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1
  libcupsppdc1 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libdb5.3 libdbus-1-3 libdc1394-22
  libdiscid0 libedit2 libee0 libegl1-mesa libeot0 libexttextcat-2.0-0
  libexttextcat-data libflite1 libfltk1.3 libfontembed1 libfs6 libgbm1
  libgcc-4.7-dev libgcc-4.8-dev libgcc-4.9-dev libgcc1 libgcrypt11 libgdbm3
  libgfortran3 libgimp2.0 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa
  libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls-openssl27
  libgnutls26 libgomp1 libgpg-error0 libgpgme11 libgraphicsmagick3
  libgssapi-krb5-2 libgssapi3-heimdal libgssdp-1.0-3
  libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0 libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0
  libgstreamer0.10-0 libgstreamer1.0-0 libgtkglext1 libgudev-1.0-0
  libharfbuzz-icu0 libharfbuzz0b libhcrypto4-heimdal libheimbase1-heimdal
  libheimntlm0-heimdal libhunspell-1.3-0 libhx509-5-heimdal libhyphen0 libice6
  libicu52 libimobiledevice4 libio-html-perl libitm1 libjack-jackd2-0
  libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjbig0 libjpeg-progs libjpeg8
  libjson-glib-1.0-0 libjson-glib-1.0-common libk5crypto3 libkmod2
  libkrb5-26-heimdal libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libllvm3.4
  liblwp-protocol-https-perl liblzo2-2 libmikmod3 libmpc3 libmpg123-0
  libmythes-1.2-0 libnautilus-extension1a libncurses5 libncursesw5
  libnet-http-perl libnet-ssleay-perl libnss3 libnss3-1d libntdb1
  libopenal-data libopenal1 libopencv-core2.4 libopencv-imgproc2.4 libpcap0.8
  libpciaccess0 libpcre3 libpcrecpp0 libperl5.18 libpisock9 libpixman-1-0
  libpng12-0 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
  libpoppler-glib8 libprocps3 libpython-stdlib libpython2.7
  libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib libpython3.4-minimal
  libpython3.4-stdlib libqt4-network libqt4-svg libqt4-xml libqtcore4
  libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 libquadmath0 libquvi-scripts libraw1394-11
  libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core
  libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-writer librlog5
  libroken18-heimdal librtmp1 libsamplerate0 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules
  libsasl2-modules-db libsdl1.2debian libsidplay1 libsm6 libsmbclient libss2
  libstdc++6 libswscale2 libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-id128-0
  libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0 libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libtagc0
  libtalloc2 libtasn1-6 libtinfo5 libtirpc1 libubsan0 libudev1 liburi-perl
  libusb-0.1-4 libwbclient0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-common
  libwind0-heimdal libwww-perl libx264-142 libxapian22 libxatracker2 libxaw7
  libxdamage1 libxfixes3 libxfont1 libxft2 libxi6 libxine2 libxine2-bin
  libxine2-ffmpeg libxine2-misc-plugins libxine2-plugins libxkbcommon0 libxml2
  libxmmsclient6 libxpm4 libxvmc1 libyaml-perl linux-libc-dev locales lshw
  mesa-utils mirage module-init-tools mpg123 mtpaint multiarch-support
  myspell-ca nano nautilus-data ncurses-base ncurses-bin ncurses-term ntfs-3g
  openssh-client openssh-server openssh-sftp-server parted
  pepperflashplugin-nonfree perl perl-base perl-modules pm-utils poppler-utils
  procps psutils pv python python-apt python-apt-common python-imaging
  python-libxml2 python-minimal python-ntdb python-pil python-pkg-resources
  python-pycurl python-samba python-six python-talloc python-urllib3
  python-urwid python-xapian python2.7 python2.7-minimal python3-apt
  python3-pkg-resources python3-six python3.4 python3.4-minimal qdbus
  qtcore4-l10n redshift rpcbind rsync rsyslog samba-common samba-common-bin
  samba-dsdb-modules samba-libs screen simpleburn smbclient strace syslinux
  syslinux-common transmission-cli transmission-daemon transmission-gtk udev
  udisks uno-libs3 unrar-free update-sun-jre upower ure vorbis-tools whois
  wodim x11-apps x11-utils x11-xserver-utils xarchiver xauth xfonts-encodings
  xfonts-utils xfsprogs xserver-common xserver-xorg-core
  xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
  xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
  xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
  xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-vesa
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware
406 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 12 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 307 MB of archives.
After this operation, 4,748 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Should I pull the trigger or uncock this baby? __{{emoticon}}__
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#2
Pull the trigger Roky - why should you escape? __{{emoticon}}__ __{{emoticon}}__ __{{emoticon}}__
Posts: 71
jtwdyp
Joined: 08 Apr 2012
#3
rokytnji wrote: I have not thought this through yet. Brain kinda overheated from outside work. So I thought I'd let some clearer heads have a look see and tell me
if it safe for me to proceed?

{{{mucho snipped}}}

I already have slim uninstalled on this netbook and log in on init 3 screen with startx. I don't feel like totall breaking this yet if I can get away with it.
First off, I think you mentioned something about systemd... To get the"init 3" style startup with systemd you may have to replace the symlink: {from"/"}

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etc/systemd/system/default.target
with one pointing at:

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/lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target
Then which Desktop Manager is installed {AKA slim} won't much matter anymore.
Should I pull the trigger or uncock this baby? __{{emoticon}}__
Me, I'd recomend backing up your current system, and then pull the trigger.

If it works your happy. If it breaks, well thats why you made a fresh backup...

Good luck!
Posts: 4,164
rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#4
Turned it off till I ponder this further. Hopefully 14 will come out and I can just grab what I wanna keep off of this and reinstall.
Even if it broke. A live usb stick would grab what I need. I can live with it the way it is for awhile longer.
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#5
If you took the decision, in the first place, to install a rolling distro on that computer, why don't you have the courage of your convictions? Maybe something safe, like Ubuntu, would have been a better choice?

And if you, as one of the team, don't have the nerve to update, what message is that sending out to any newcomers reading this?

Of course, this is just my opinion, and opinions are like arseholes - everybody has one, and you don't have to listen to mine.
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fatmac
Joined: 26 Jul 2012
#6
Alanarchy wrote:Pull the trigger Roky - why should you escape? __{{emoticon}}__ __{{emoticon}}__ __{{emoticon}}__
I thought you liked to test this distro, where's the fun in pulling the plug! __{{emoticon}}__
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#7
I know a song about this __{{emoticon}}__


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fatmac
Joined: 26 Jul 2012
#8
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#9
I am unloading brick from a truck and stacking it up in 120F heat.

I don't have the energy at the end of the day to troubleshoot while doing this.
So you can take that Ubuntu recommend and your body and come out here and help me unload that truck.

See how well your computer skills function after sweating buckets all day and working out your muscles.
I'll get to it when I get to it.
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#10
Actually, I suspect that if they've now taken out systemd it could be time for me to do another update. I only just finished reinstalling for, what it must be the sixth time. Different things go wrong every time. Not my fault if you asked the question right now. __{{emoticon}}__
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#11
I guess I am not the only
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#12
Looks like I was smart to wait.

Instead of 12 removals today. I am down to 3. SysVinit being one of them instead of systemd.

Doing dist-upgrade now via smxi.
Finished. Reinstalled slim. systemd ran a fsck on both my kernels and hung.
Used the shift key repeatedly to finish up.
Got a slim login screen on both kernels.
All is right now,

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# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libass4 libee0 libetpan16 libfftw3-3 libfftw3-long3 libfftw3-single3
  libminiupnpc8 libpoppler44 libupower-glib1 samba-dsdb-modules
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

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$ inxi -Ixxx
Info:      Processes: 95 Uptime: 7 min Memory: 278.6/2015.1MB 
           Init: systemd v: 208 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           Gcc sys: 4.9.1 alt: 4.4/4.7/4.8 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.221 running in roxterm) inxi: 2.1.29

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$ inxi -v7
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.12-6.towo-siduction-686-pae i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.8.2) 
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 dm: slim 
           Distro: antiX-13_386-full Luddite 01 June 2013 
Machine:   System: manda product: Intel powered classmate PC v: Gen 1.5L
           Mobo: N/A model: N/A
           Bios: American Megatrends v: CM94515A.86A.0024.2008.0715.1716 date: 07/15/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Core N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3191 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:27ae
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.0 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x600@53.33hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.2.4 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:27d8 
           Sound: ALSA v: k3.12-6.towo-siduction-686-pae
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: ec00
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
           IF: eth1 state: down <filtered>
           WAN IP: xxxxxxxxx IF: eth1 ip: N/A ip-v6: N/A 
           IF: wlan1 ip: 192xxxxxxx ip-v6: xxxxxxxxxxx
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 63.3GB (55.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KingSpec_KSD size: 63.3GB serial: ZF18613012400045
           Optical: No optical drives detected.
Partition: ID-1: / size: 59G used: 33G (60%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda1 
           label: / uuid: dfe6cc48-1f85-47b5-a8ce-a7ea94b42f4b
RAID:      No RAID data: /proc/mdstat missing-is md_mod kernel module loaded?
Unmounted: No unmounted partitions detected
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 61.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 95 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 282.0/2015.1MB 
           Init: systemd v: 208 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           Gcc sys: 4.9.1 alt: 4.4/4.7/4.8 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.221 running in roxterm) inxi: 2.1.29
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Now just to finish outside chores. __{{emoticon}}__
Alanarchy
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Alanarchy
#13
I felt so hot thinking about you unloading those bricks in the heat that I drank several cold beers for you Roky. __{{emoticon}}__ __{{emoticon}}__
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fatmac
Joined: 26 Jul 2012
#14
I like your new 'friend' - (s)he looks cool. __{{emoticon}}__