I have not got full details yet, but I thought I would post just in case it is a known issue.
I have just loaded Antix on a netbook that has previously run Lubuntu. With Lubuntu it always connected to any WiFi around without a problem.
With Antix the netbook will only connect to WiFi if it does not have a security key. I have found this using two broadband routers (SFR and Orange) - in each case if the router is set up with a key (WPA2-PSK) the Antix system fails to make a connection when DHCPDISCOVER is launched. If I change the router to"no security" the connection is ok.
I am still investigating (by searching the internet) - but I wonder if anyone else has seen this problem?
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frank4360Posts: 15
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rokytnjiPosts: 4,164
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#2
But I use Wicd normally instead of Ceni and have not had a problem and I have been running AntiX since version 7.
Maybe ISP is different in France than in TX?
Nope. I have connected to wpa2-psk at home, on the road, etc.....I am still investigating (by searching the internet) - but I wonder if anyone else has seen this problem?
But I use Wicd normally instead of Ceni and have not had a problem and I have been running AntiX since version 7.
Maybe ISP is different in France than in TX?
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EinoPosts: 630
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#3
You need to post more information for anyone to really help.
Run" inxi -F -z"( without the quotation marks) in the terminal then copy and paste it in to your next message.
Run" inxi -F -z"( without the quotation marks) in the terminal then copy and paste it in to your next message.
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frank4360Posts: 15
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#4
I have added wicd, though I have not removed ceni (I haven't found where to edit the AntiCC files); now when I boot up to connect to unsecured WiFi there is a short delay when the browser cannot find any WiFi and reports web pages unavailable - after maybe 30 nseconds a connection is made and all is well.
I have not yet tried with a secured WiFi, since I need to change tha router security and this causes havoc with my wife's connection. I will do so when she is not wanting to be on-line (anything to preserve marital harmony!).
The output from inxi above is from after the connection to WiFi has been made, so presumably does not really help. I will post again when I attempt to connect to secured WiFi.
Eino wrote:You need to post more information for anyone to really help.
Run" inxi -F -z"( without the quotation marks) in the terminal then copy and paste it in to your next message.
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$ inxi -Fz
System: Host: BabyAcer Kernel: 3.5.0-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit)
Desktop: JWM 2.1.0 Distro: antiX-base Edelweißpiraten 06 August 2012
Machine: System: Acer product: AOA110 version: 1
Mobo: Intel model: N/A Bios: INSYDE version: v0.3109 date: 05/09/2008
CPU: Single core Intel Atom CPU N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3)
Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio: Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath5k
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 8.1GB (48.4% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: SSDPAMM0008G1EA size: 8.1GB
Partition: ID: / size: 6.4G used: 3.7G (60%) fs: ext3 ID: swap-1 size: 1.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 83 Uptime: 47 min Memory: 218.1/489.3MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.8.32
I have added wicd, though I have not removed ceni (I haven't found where to edit the AntiCC files); now when I boot up to connect to unsecured WiFi there is a short delay when the browser cannot find any WiFi and reports web pages unavailable - after maybe 30 nseconds a connection is made and all is well.
I have not yet tried with a secured WiFi, since I need to change tha router security and this causes havoc with my wife's connection. I will do so when she is not wanting to be on-line (anything to preserve marital harmony!).
The output from inxi above is from after the connection to WiFi has been made, so presumably does not really help. I will post again when I attempt to connect to secured WiFi.
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EinoPosts: 630
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#5
I have noticed that you have not updated your video drivers yet . So going on that assumption you have not updated the system..
Let's see want happens after an update. We are going to use a script, that I feel is really handy with Antix.
. Press Ctrl+Alt+F1, you will go out of X, and get an empty terminal screen, fully black with a login prompt.Then log in as"root"
Next type in" smxi" then follow the on screen instructions. After the update select continue when you see the option for your video driver select it. You now need to select the correct driver yours would be labeled" intel" .
After everything is updated make the selection to exit the script. at the prompt simply type reboot then enter,or just press Ctrl+Alt+Delete
Please make note of any errors. If you have errors post them so we can work though them.
Please let us know if it resolved the issue.
Let's see want happens after an update. We are going to use a script, that I feel is really handy with Antix.
. Press Ctrl+Alt+F1, you will go out of X, and get an empty terminal screen, fully black with a login prompt.Then log in as"root"
Next type in" smxi" then follow the on screen instructions. After the update select continue when you see the option for your video driver select it. You now need to select the correct driver yours would be labeled" intel" .
After everything is updated make the selection to exit the script. at the prompt simply type reboot then enter,or just press Ctrl+Alt+Delete
Please make note of any errors. If you have errors post them so we can work though them.
Please let us know if it resolved the issue.
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duncan_mkPosts: 137
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#6
I have a similar problem. 3.7.10 installed & worked fine - wireless just used the settings from 3.5.0. I installed 3.8.0 and ceni reported that there was no network. I installed 3.8.4 (last niight) and wireless wouldn't connect.
NOW: this is not a new problem. At the end of November 2012 BT started work to install cable broadband into the village and co-incidently router we use here dropped off my Samsung - but continued to work on the netbook. At first I thought it was the Samsung but found that using Windows 7 worked fine. Ultimately I installed antiX 32 on the Samsung and got wireless back.
OK so the problem seems to be connected to 64bit Linux distro's (I tried a number to see if I could work out what was going on - same result for all), the Samsung & (maybe) changes by BT. The Samsung had run 64bit distro's for a year without problems and my main installation SuSE.12.2 had run, undisturbed for a year. After November, nothing worked.
On Friday, I installed openSuSE 12.3 64bit on the Samsung and it worked fine (the 1st 64bit piece of kit to have wireless on the Samsung for 3 months). Last night I installed the 3.8.4 32bit kernel on the netbook and got the same result I've been getting (pre-SuSE.12.3)from 64bit on the Samsung. I enclose a couple of screenshots by way of illustration:
This first one shows the result of running ceni using 3.7.10. The Netgear router (our router) shows plainly while in this 2nd shot - 3.8.4 - it's disappeared:
and here's some code:
Written in some haste - dog's agitating to be taken to pub - but wanted to get this into the mix.
dmk
NOW: this is not a new problem. At the end of November 2012 BT started work to install cable broadband into the village and co-incidently router we use here dropped off my Samsung - but continued to work on the netbook. At first I thought it was the Samsung but found that using Windows 7 worked fine. Ultimately I installed antiX 32 on the Samsung and got wireless back.
OK so the problem seems to be connected to 64bit Linux distro's (I tried a number to see if I could work out what was going on - same result for all), the Samsung & (maybe) changes by BT. The Samsung had run 64bit distro's for a year without problems and my main installation SuSE.12.2 had run, undisturbed for a year. After November, nothing worked.
On Friday, I installed openSuSE 12.3 64bit on the Samsung and it worked fine (the 1st 64bit piece of kit to have wireless on the Samsung for 3 months). Last night I installed the 3.8.4 32bit kernel on the netbook and got the same result I've been getting (pre-SuSE.12.3)from 64bit on the Samsung. I enclose a couple of screenshots by way of illustration:
This first one shows the result of running ceni using 3.7.10. The Netgear router (our router) shows plainly while in this 2nd shot - 3.8.4 - it's disappeared:
and here's some code:
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$ inxi -Fx
System: Host: antiXdell Kernel: 3.5.0-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.7.1)
Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-full Edelweißpiraten 22 August 2012
Machine: Mobo: Dell model: CN0Y53 version: A06 Bios: Dell version: A06 date: 07/29/2009
CPU: Single core Intel Atom CPU N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3191.85
Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A
Audio: Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.25
Network: Card-1: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY driver: b43-pci-bridge bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 0c:60:76:3f:54:c6
Card-2: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:24:e8:e2:6f:63
Drives: HDD Total Size: 64.0GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: OCZ size: 64.0GB
Partition: ID: / size: 57G used: 9.4G (18%) fs: ext3 ID: swap-1 size: 2.17GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 101 Uptime: 49 min Memory: 200.0/999.9MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.2
Client: Shell (bash 4.2.37) inxi: 1.8.32
dmk
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EinoPosts: 630
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#7
I had a network encryption problem, after installing Antix-2. After the update the problem went away.
I wish it had an auto-update during the install. It would take care of some issues.
I wish it had an auto-update during the install. It would take care of some issues.
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masinickPosts: 1,139
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#8
I find in densely populated areas with a LOT of wifi access points that wifi channel signals are often the culprit of issues, even though circumstantial evidence may suggest other sources or causes of the problem. To determine whether that is actually the case or not, see if you can figure out how to manually select the wifi channel on your router. If so, then use a scanning tool that can identify the other wifi channels in your area with a signal strong enough to interfere with yours, and if possible, choose a different channel. For me, I've rarely found a kernel that doesn't behave properly when:
1. The correct wireless firmware is installed; on my hardware, the Intel Pro Wireless firmware works really well with some systems (I've had really good success with models that use Intel Pro Wireless 2200 (old) and 3945 (starting to get old too). I've had slightly less initial success with Broadcom; my device firmware uses the Broadcom 4311 wireless firmware; you can generally find it, but some distro developers choose the Broadcom STA wireless firmware; I have inconsistent results with that firmware; if you happen to have Broadcom wireless network hardware, I recommend using either the b43 or the b43-legacy wireless firmware, depending on which card you have; I've discussed this elsewhere, but both the Debian and the Arch Wiki sites have really good documentation about this; refer to one of them if you cannot locate my discourse on the topic in this forum.
2. I reprogram my wireless router, replacing automatic channel selection with a specific channel that others are not using; until someone comes along and starts using the same channel that I use, this works well for me; where I live now, I have not had problems in over a year.
1. The correct wireless firmware is installed; on my hardware, the Intel Pro Wireless firmware works really well with some systems (I've had really good success with models that use Intel Pro Wireless 2200 (old) and 3945 (starting to get old too). I've had slightly less initial success with Broadcom; my device firmware uses the Broadcom 4311 wireless firmware; you can generally find it, but some distro developers choose the Broadcom STA wireless firmware; I have inconsistent results with that firmware; if you happen to have Broadcom wireless network hardware, I recommend using either the b43 or the b43-legacy wireless firmware, depending on which card you have; I've discussed this elsewhere, but both the Debian and the Arch Wiki sites have really good documentation about this; refer to one of them if you cannot locate my discourse on the topic in this forum.
2. I reprogram my wireless router, replacing automatic channel selection with a specific channel that others are not using; until someone comes along and starts using the same channel that I use, this works well for me; where I live now, I have not had problems in over a year.
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#9
Hello again
Thanks for all the ideas - I have been today to our holiday home which has a secure WiFi connection. Until today I could not test with a secure connection.
The computer did not connect via WiFi, so I used the AntixCC"Network" tab to check Interfaces (Ceni, though I have installed wicd) and set the key for the secure network. Still no joy!
So I connected using an ethernet cable - the connection came up without a problem. I then disconnected the cable and the connection continued perfectly via WiFi.
I shut down the computer and rebooted and the WiFi came up without a problem!
The problem is that I have no idea whether I dare take the AntiX computer with me on my travels when I need to connect to a WiFi network.
I realise, of course, that I have not provided enough detail (logs, etc) of the problem; but i was at our holiday home (which we let to holidaymakers) to try to fix a problem with drains and so I was not fully concentrating.
@Elno - I have another, old laptop running AntiX, and I tried your"smxi" update on this - it failed with error 100 and therefore I have not tried it on the netbook with the WiFi problem.
@masinick there are not a lot of WiFi access points here - our nearest neighbour is about a kilometre away and has no idea about computers!
At our holiday home there are perhaps 10 routers within WiFi signal radius.
Thanks for all the ideas - I have been today to our holiday home which has a secure WiFi connection. Until today I could not test with a secure connection.
The computer did not connect via WiFi, so I used the AntixCC"Network" tab to check Interfaces (Ceni, though I have installed wicd) and set the key for the secure network. Still no joy!
So I connected using an ethernet cable - the connection came up without a problem. I then disconnected the cable and the connection continued perfectly via WiFi.
I shut down the computer and rebooted and the WiFi came up without a problem!
The problem is that I have no idea whether I dare take the AntiX computer with me on my travels when I need to connect to a WiFi network.
I realise, of course, that I have not provided enough detail (logs, etc) of the problem; but i was at our holiday home (which we let to holidaymakers) to try to fix a problem with drains and so I was not fully concentrating.
@Elno - I have another, old laptop running AntiX, and I tried your"smxi" update on this - it failed with error 100 and therefore I have not tried it on the netbook with the WiFi problem.
@masinick there are not a lot of WiFi access points here - our nearest neighbour is about a kilometre away and has no idea about computers!
At our holiday home there are perhaps 10 routers within WiFi signal radius.
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rokytnjiPosts: 4,164
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#10
Living in the USA.
Mine has never failed while traveling. I usually take the 7" or 9" eeepcs I have with AntiX on them.
Mine has never failed while traveling. I usually take the 7" or 9" eeepcs I have with AntiX on them.