Probably most users of antiX have it installed to a drive of some sort, But, antiX is very flexible and can be run 'live' from a cd, usb device and frugal from a hard drive, with or without persistence.
So anyone out there running frugal, live on a stick? And, if so, how is it going.
I run 4 versions of antiX frugally with persistence on 2 different partitions (2 full and 2 base) and 2 usb sticks with live persistence (both running base). When I was in the UK, I spent the 3 months running antiX-full live with persistence from a usb stick that used a live antiX cd to boot from (the laptop would not boot from usb) and it performed better than windows 7 that was installed.
topic title: Anyone using antiX frugal or live persistence?
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anticapitalista
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rust collectorPosts: 765
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I have had antix base installed to a sd card, in my phone. it works fine, and I can boot a computer thru the usb, then use the phones internet.
IIrc, the trick was to only use the home persistence, not root?
It has been a while since I had a reason to try it.
Other than that, I tend to just have regular live antixes on usb sticks, to get a machine running, or get a few files from it, without the persistent bit
IIrc, the trick was to only use the home persistence, not root?
It has been a while since I had a reason to try it.
Other than that, I tend to just have regular live antixes on usb sticks, to get a machine running, or get a few files from it, without the persistent bit
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NeilPosts: 69
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#3
I have been trying to make a frugal install just this afternoon, and am having problems getting it to boot. I started with a blank Compact Flash card used as a HDD in an X40 Thinkpad. I've copied the AntiX-core files to the HDD and installed Grub, but I'm having trouble finding the right syntax for Grub. From a LiveCD, Gparted shows sda1 as my linux swap partition, and sda2 as the partition grub and AntiX files are located on. The Grub boot menu comes up just fine, but AntiX (the only OS on this drive) won't boot. Using the Grub menu.list entries suggested in the AntiX Wiki, I get the following error:
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NeilPosts: 69
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Update: I finally got grub to boot (or at least try to) the HDD. But, now I guess I'll have to go looking for where I mistyped the directions to the linux files because I'm now getting:
Well I've given up...it's more trouble than it's worth to set up a frugal install. I just went ahead with a regular hard drive install.
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dolphin_oraclePosts: 2,238
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#5
i always set up a live persistence usb with my default set of applications. Then I use that to install to the hard drive. That I've got both a custom and install and a matching usb setup. I've even done video editing with the live persistent usb. its nice booting on any machine and having your stuff.
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rokytnjiPosts: 4,164
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#6
I am thinking of doing a frugal install on one empty 8 gig ide hard drive on the ibm m41 tower and using the 40gig ide secondary as storage but life is interfering so far. I gotta study up first before trying this.
I have the latest 13.2 AntiX burned on cd for this task. One drive blank 8 gig. Other drive 40 gig dual boot
Macpup 529 and Semplice using grub4dos to boot both. Grub4dos kicks into grub2 for semplice linux.
The IBM is
that is a old inxi report that shows when the ,60 gig ide/100 gig total, was working before it died and I had to rearrange everything to 8gig/40gig/48gig total.
now a 48
I have the latest 13.2 AntiX burned on cd for this task. One drive blank 8 gig. Other drive 40 gig dual boot
Macpup 529 and Semplice using grub4dos to boot both. Grub4dos kicks into grub2 for semplice linux.
The IBM is
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$ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: biker Kernel: 3.5.0-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.7.1)
Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-full Edelweißpiraten 06 August 2012
Machine: System: IBM product: 679421U
Mobo: IBM model: IBM Bios: IBM version: 20KT46AUS date: 06/04/2004
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-UP-) cache: 256 KB flags: (sse sse2) bmips: 3588.24 clocked at 1794.123 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.12.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x768@85.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A
Audio: Card: Intel 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: 1c00 1840 bus-ID: 00:1f.5
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.25
Network: Card: Intel 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller driver: e100 ver: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:08.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 100.1GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_SV6003H size: 60.1GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: IC35L040AVVA07 size: 40.0GB
Partition: ID: / size: 25G used: 4.0G (18%) fs: ext3 ID: swap-1 size: 0.81GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 31.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 82 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 64.4/1135.3MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.1 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.14 now a 48
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skidooPosts: 1,445
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#7
Largely for the"benefit #3" (alleviate disk access) mentioned here:
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i typically run from USB + on-demand (aka semi-automatic) root persistence.
Beyond the already heavy accesses to .mozilla/cache
with these addons, the drive activity sounded like an incessant popcorn popper
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linktext was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... est-logger"
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(every request logged to an external file, for auditing)
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linktext was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... b-mix-plus"
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(session manager)
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(hit counts)
If installed to a permanent drive, I'd map to tempfs & periodically sync anyhow, so this suits me.
My primary motivator for running live + on-demand persistence (and recurring"snapshotting") though, is that it gives me the freedom to install and test drive lots of stuff without worrying about clutter & breakage. One of my pendrives boots a mixed-n-remixed 11/2012 Antix12; another boots a mashup derived from Antix13base+livarp04. Although I do have a hd-installed Antix13base (+sid+openSUSE repos), I've rarely booted linux from the hd during the past several months.
How's it going?
The functionality has been flawless. OTOH, as I reported back in Antix12... the GUI for setting up and using the persistence (and snaptshot) scripts is daunting/confusing. At some junctures, there's no progressbar -- leaving user wondering whether the process is hung.
Elsewhere, the dialog containing the progressbar self-terminates upon completion (dumps user back to menu, vs displaying"success" and awaiting an OK click to dismiss the dialog)... elsewhere (semi-auto, on-demand) after saving the persistence file, a dialog box opens (again) asking y/n shall we proceed?
Somewhere in the docs, I think I recall reading"performing a cleanup" (bleachbit to empty .mozilla/cache etc) prior to saving a persistence file is mentioned / recommended. You might emphasize that more prominently in the docs, or (prompt user to close browser and) clean the browser cache path inline, right from within the save persistence file script. (edit: naw, autoclean would be a crapshoot; user might have web browsers other than iceweasel installed.)
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url was:"http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=35208"
linktext was:"http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 40&t=35208"
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i typically run from USB + on-demand (aka semi-automatic) root persistence.
Beyond the already heavy accesses to .mozilla/cache
with these addons, the drive activity sounded like an incessant popcorn popper
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/http-request-logger"
linktext was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... est-logger"
====================================
(every request logged to an external file, for auditing)
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus"
linktext was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... b-mix-plus"
====================================
(session manager)
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge"
linktext was:"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... block-edge"
====================================
(hit counts)
If installed to a permanent drive, I'd map to tempfs & periodically sync anyhow, so this suits me.
My primary motivator for running live + on-demand persistence (and recurring"snapshotting") though, is that it gives me the freedom to install and test drive lots of stuff without worrying about clutter & breakage. One of my pendrives boots a mixed-n-remixed 11/2012 Antix12; another boots a mashup derived from Antix13base+livarp04. Although I do have a hd-installed Antix13base (+sid+openSUSE repos), I've rarely booted linux from the hd during the past several months.
How's it going?
The functionality has been flawless. OTOH, as I reported back in Antix12... the GUI for setting up and using the persistence (and snaptshot) scripts is daunting/confusing. At some junctures, there's no progressbar -- leaving user wondering whether the process is hung.
Elsewhere, the dialog containing the progressbar self-terminates upon completion (dumps user back to menu, vs displaying"success" and awaiting an OK click to dismiss the dialog)... elsewhere (semi-auto, on-demand) after saving the persistence file, a dialog box opens (again) asking y/n shall we proceed?
Somewhere in the docs, I think I recall reading"performing a cleanup" (bleachbit to empty .mozilla/cache etc) prior to saving a persistence file is mentioned / recommended. You might emphasize that more prominently in the docs, or (prompt user to close browser and) clean the browser cache path inline, right from within the save persistence file script. (edit: naw, autoclean would be a crapshoot; user might have web browsers other than iceweasel installed.)
Last edited by skidoo on 25 Nov 2013, 20:28, edited 1 time in total.
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jdmeaux1952Posts: 667
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I never realized that you could run a live version while still having it on your hard drive installed. My mind just wasn't thinking right all this time.
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fatmacPosts: 850
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#9
As long as the machine is set to boot up in the right order, should work on any. __{{emoticon}}__jdmeaux1952 wrote:I never realized that you could run a live version while still having it on your hard drive installed. My mind just wasn't thinking right all this time.