topic title: AntiX To Flash
Posts: 2
Jocklad
Joined: 16 Apr 2013
#1
Hi All,

Brand new to the Forum and Antix.

Always keen to learn about a new O/S.Currently using Ubuntu 12.04.

My first attempt will be to try and load to a flash Drive.

All and any help very welcome.

Ben
Posts: 630
Eino
Joined: 12 Oct 2012
#2
i have used"UNetbootin" It's good to application to make bootable usb drives with.
The software may be available with Ubuntu's Software installer.


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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#3
I am still learning

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# new_usb.sh -h
Usage: new_usb.sh [options] iso-file device [cheatcodes]
Installs antiX iso-file on the USB device
Options:
        -h, --help                       show this output
        -v, --version                    show version information
        -d, --debug                      toggle debug mode
        -q, --quiet                      toggle quiet mode
        -f, --format=FORMAT              file system: ext2|ext3|fat32
        -s, --size=SIZE                  size of the first partition
                                         (defaults to full device)
        -b, --bootloader=grub|iso|ext    boot mode
        -p, --persistence=MODE           set persistence: root|home
        -l, --label=LABEL                label, default antiX
        -L, --list-devices               prints a list of USB devices and exits
So I can;t be of much help. I keep getting unbootable sticks with

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# new_usb.sh -b grub antiX-13-beta2-pt1_386-full.iso /dev/sdb
on my 64bit Desktop base iso testing install. I have not tried this yet on my
32bit testing Full iso testing install yet. If using Ubuntu to make the stick. I
also agree with Eino about unetbootin.
Posts: 279
afab4
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
#4
Roky..

I use this format with success:

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new_usb.sh /home/downloads/isoname.iso /dev/sdb -b grub
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afab4
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
#5
afab4 wrote:Roky..

I use this format with success:

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new_usb.sh /home/downloads/isoname.iso /dev/sdb -b grub

I have also made a live USB from the stock antiX iso using this format:

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dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/usbdevice bs=4M; sync
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#6
Thanks afab. I saved viewtopic.php?f=16&t=4275 the page in my Documents folder for later on.
Posts: 2
Jocklad
Joined: 16 Apr 2013
#7
Thanks for all your replies.

Unetbootin is installed in Ubuntu 12.04 but cant find Antix in the distribution list.

Ben
Posts: 1,308
BitJam
Joined: 31 Aug 2009
#8
Unetbootin disables some/many of the features of the antiX-13 bootloader. For the true antiX experience you need to use either dd or the *latest* new_usb.sh (dated February 2013). Instructions for both of these methods are given above.

I've been told that our Fn key menus get disabled by Unetbootin. These menus let you select:
  • language
  • timezone
  • Options (toram, automounting, md5 check, modeset, HP-laptop (coming soon))
  • Screen resolution
  • Desktop program
  • DPI (scale most font sizes in X-windows)
On read-write media, such as a usb-stick, the DPI menu becomes a"Save" menu that lets you save your current bootloader menu and typed-in settings (I'm not certain this works if you use the dd method of creating a LiveUSB). This is the quickest and easiest way to customize the antiX LiveUSB.

Our menus, by default, provide the"nomodeset" option which some older computers need in order to not get a blank screen when booting. Our"Options" menu lets you turn the"nomodeset" option off. If you use Unetbootin then our menus are disabled and you no longer get the"nomodeset" option by default so some people will have to type it in each time they boot. This is only a problem when you use Unetbootin. Our menus work in other LiveUSBs and in the LiveCD.

BTW: IMO the decision to require that people use the"nomodeset" option in order for all of their older computers to boot was totally brain-dead. This is a kernel option and not something added by antiX. If it were up to me, older computers would continue to boot by default and if someone wants the new fancy feature turned on then they would need to use a"modeset" boot parameter.
Posts: 148
chrispop99
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
#9
Jocklad wrote:Thanks for all your replies.

Unetbootin is installed in Ubuntu 12.04 but cant find Antix in the distribution list.

Ben
There is an option within Unetbootin to use a local .iso file that you have already downloaded. Click the 'Diskimage' radio button near the bottom on the left, then browse to where you have stored the file.

C
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Dave
Joined: 20 Jan 2010
#10
BitJam wrote:Unetbootin disables some/many of the features of the antiX-13 bootloader. For the true antiX experience you need to use either dd or the *latest* new_usb.sh (dated February 2013).
We really need to make several packages for different distros containing this script (and the gui when it works) so ou can make a usb stick from anywhere. A windows exe would be nice if someone is familliar with how to make an exe
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BitJam
Joined: 31 Aug 2009
#11
Dave wrote:We really need to make several packages for different distros containing this script (and the gui when it works) so ou can make a usb stick from anywhere. A windows exe would be nice if someone is familliar with how to make an exe
Agreed. We also need a version that will write directly to a usb stick and not through an intermediary iso file.

An ideal solution would be to have UNetbootin use our menus when they make an antiX-13+ usb. Maybe we can contact UNetbootin and figure out a way for them to copy over our menus and features. It should not be too difficult. We support both isolinux and Grub. ISTM that at worst, I would just have to change some file names.
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chrispop99
Joined: 21 Apr 2011
#12
From UNetbootin's FAQ's :

Where can I report bugs, request new features, get help, etc?

If you encounter errors with UNetbootin itself, first try using the version available on this website if you obtained it from a different source (your version may be outdated). If the problem still persists, take note of the version of UNetbootin you're using (it's in the filename if you downloaded it from here), the ISO file you're installing or the distribution you're letting UNetbootin download for you, and the OS you're on (like"Windows 7, 64-bit" or"Ubuntu 10.04, 32-bit"), and ask a question or file a bug report, mentioning the above details. You can also see the Ubuntu Forums (the LiveUSB installation thread or Hard disk installation thread depending on your install mode), or the forum on Boot Land, but only Launchpad (bugs and answers), not the forums, are monitored by developers. However, if it's a distribution or hardware-specific issue, file a bug report against the distribution itself.


From the last sentence, it would not seem likely that the developers would be interested in sorting this out themselves.

C
Posts: 630
Eino
Joined: 12 Oct 2012
#13
I did not know antiX had an issue with Unetbootin. I have use it before to install Debian, and Mint.
Sorry If I have misdirected anyone.
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rust collector
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
#14
Eino wrote:I did not know antiX had an issue with Unetbootin. I have use it before to install Debian, and Mint.
Sorry If I have misdirected anyone.
It works fine, Eino, it just doesn't let you use all the features.
nadir
Posts 0
nadir
#15
All of the following is as far i understand:

fsmithred and dzz seem to be working on a script to put iso's on a flash-card or stick
it seems to allow a persistent mode too
it seems to allow encryption too
i am not sure if it is usable yet. I used it, in an easy manner. That worked with refracta but failed with crunchbang. I didn't test it with antiX.
I myself don't understand it. I think i will stick to dd or unetbootin (i neither need persistence nor encryption).
They seem to focus on usb-sticks, but i tested it with a flash-card-reader.

To make it short:
Here is a link to a version, i am not sure if it is the actual one but i am pretty sure that fsmithred wrote he would have a new version finished soon:

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