topic title: Antix MX14 won't shutdown or reboot (SOLVED)
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#1
Antix MX14 won't shutdown or reboot my laptop...
The laptop is an old HP Pavilion ZE4400
it has an AMD Athlon XP 2200 processor and 1 Gig Ram...

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inxi -F
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 Distro: MX-14_13.98_386-xfce beta2 30 January 2014
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: Pavilion ze4400 (DL390A) version: KAM1.60
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 0024 version: PQ1A84 Bios: Phoenix version: KAM1.60 date: 05/04/2005
CPU:       Single core mobile AMD Athlon XP2200+ (-UP-) cache: 256 KB flags: (pae sse) clocked at 795.030 MHz 
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS100 [Radeon IGP320M] 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x768@47.5hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI R100 (RS100 4336) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE NO-TCL DRI2 GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card: ULi M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device driver: snd_ali5451 Sound: ALSA ver: k3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
Network:   Card-1: National DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller driver: natsemi 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:0b:cd:e9:a1:ea
           Card-2: Atheros AR2417 Wireless Network Adapter [AR5007G 802.11bg] driver: ath5k 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: f8:d1:11:53:a7:45
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 31.0GB (0.3% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: HITACHI_DK23EA size: 30.0GB 
           2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: DataTraveler_2.0 size: 1.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 26G used: 2.3G (10%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 112 Uptime: 9 min Memory: 131.9/880.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.16

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cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor    : 0
vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
cpu family    : 6
model        : 8
model name    : mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP2200+
stepping    : 1
cpu MHz        : 530.020
cache size    : 256 KB
fdiv_bug    : no
f00f_bug    : no
coma_bug    : no
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 1
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips    : 1060.04
clflush size    : 32
cache_alignment    : 32
address sizes    : 34 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid
Hope the above information helps, I am putting a video below to show the screen on a reboot and what it says.... __{{emoticon}}__

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Last edited by rjm65 on 19 Apr 2014, 16:20, edited 1 time in total.
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fatmac
Joined: 26 Jul 2012
#2
Live or installed(?).

You can use a terminal as the root user (or using sudo), type
halt & press return/enter
or
shutdown -h now & press return/enter
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#3
fatmac wrote:Live or installed(?).

You can use a terminal as the root user (or using sudo), type
halt & press return/enter
or
shutdown -h now & press return/enter
MX14 is installed to the hard drive...
I was hoping there was a way to get it to shut down normally with the shutdown or restart buttons...
But I will try your commands and see what it does and let you know, as soon as the updates are done installing ... __{{emoticon}}__
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#4
The halt command worked to shutdown antix but it is not shutting down the machine...
the shudown -h now gave me command not found....
Antix I believe is shutting itself down it is just not restarting or shutting down the laptop itself and I have to hold power button to shut the laptop down....
Could this be a kernel problem maybe a newer or older kernel would fix it up???
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#5
Configuration

The GRUB menu of an installed MX-14 can be modified with two very handy graphical tools, both in Start menu > System.

Grub customizer. This tool allows users to configure some important Grub settings such as the boot entry list configuration.
Disk manager. With this utility you can easily manage partitions, filesystem and NTFS support.

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I had to use the

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acpi=force

in the kernel line to get AntiX 8.2 to shutdown all the way. So try using Grub Customiser in MX-14 and edit the end of you kernel line to say

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acpi=force
I hope that works. Can't guarantee it though.
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#6
I will try that on the live cd tomorrow, because the live cd don't shutdown on this particular machine either....
I tried Debian LXDE and that would not shutdown, I have since went with Solydx which is shutting down properly...
But I still want to figure out MX14 cause I would rather run that because it is much lighter in resources.... thanks.... __{{emoticon}}__
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#7
I will try that on the live cd tomorrow,
Any Changes to syslinux on live boot is lost on reboot so I must be missing the point here.

My fix only worked on installed systems. Also I had the benefit of just having a /boot/grub/menu.lst

instead of a script to run a script grub2 like a installed MX-14 uses.
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#8
well if you start the live cd by editing and adding acpi=force are you saying it is not going to hold during the live session to shut the cd down??? i would think it would hold during that session... if not i'll drop a small hard drive in the thing and re install mx14... either way i am curious, cause i have been beating myself to death trying distros on this thing, and most every one refuses to shutdown or reboot... So far only lmde mate and solydx shut down and reboot.... Even the new lubuntu 14.04 does the same thing it hangs at a cursor and don't shut down.... I just find it weird that a few are working, that is why I asked if it may be a kernel issue, and replacing the kernel would be a fix with either an older or newer kernel... __{{emoticon}}__
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#9
that is why I asked if it may be a kernel issue, and replacing the kernel would be a fix with either an older or newer kernel... __{{emoticon}}__

Well, when I ran 8.2. It was a old early kernel. I still had to edit the kernel line boot parameters.

It won't stick because the acpi=force has to be initialized during the boot up process. At least in my mind.

Which is as flaky as buttermilk biscuits sometimes. __{{emoticon}}__

You can try it. Can't hurt. It won't be the 1st time I am wrong or the last either.
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#10
ok mx14 is installed again on the hard drive and it won't shutdown or reboot...
before i deleted solydx i noticed they use kernel 3.11-2-486
antix is using kernel 3.12.0 bpo.1-686-pae
so maybe I need a 486 kernel rather then a 686????
anticapitalista
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#11
There is a non-pae version of MX-14 here:


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rjm65
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#12
anticapitalista wrote:There is a non-pae version of MX-14 here:


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will that help me using a non pae even though my processor is pae capable???
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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
#13
rjm65 wrote:
anticapitalista wrote:There is a non-pae version of MX-14 here:


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will that help me using a non pae even though my processor is pae capable???
pae is for over 4 gig of ram. Might as well try it and find out is how I would approach it.

AntiX 13.2 uses a 486 kernel also. Kernel changes can be done in MX-14 after a install using smxi which I use to change kernels.
anticapitalista
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#14
rjm65 wrote:
anticapitalista wrote:There is a non-pae version of MX-14 here:


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will that help me using a non pae even though my processor is pae capable???
Who knows? Maybe. Alternatively, install another kernel
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rjm65
Joined: 20 Jan 2014
#15
Well I just booted live non pae antix mx14 and clicked restart, and it shut the machine down and restarted, so I guess that was the problem.... thanks gentlemen I appreciate it, this one has been making go insane, but I found the answer here.... __{{emoticon}}__