Posts: 6
wh7qq
Joined: 07 May 2012
#1
I'm not sure where to properly locate this, since I am using M12, downloaded several days ago, the latest rc, I thought. I finally got it all updated (dist-upgrade) last night and today, tried a few things. The antiXsnapshot program looked interesting so I tried it...a real torture test for the N2700: ran at 100% on all four threads through much of the run but produced an iso that I burned using"Simple Burn" to a CD. A fine new coaster! Undaunted, I tried it again in runlevel 3 to try to reduce the load on the CPU...still 100% on all 4 threads but it ran faster. I took the iso to my dual core Athlon 64 box and produced a CD using k3b at 8x, TAO. This time, it would at least come up and try to boot...lots of red ink in the boot messages but failed at

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INIT:no more processes left in this run level
and would not proceed. And it still won't suspend. Even"pm-suspend" as root will turn off but never come back. Maybe something in pm-utils 1.4.1-9 as the -8 version worked in the M11 live CD, i486.

fyi:my"inxi -bxx" reports as:
$ inxi -bxx
System: Host: (none) Kernel: 3.2.0-2-686-pae i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.6.3)
Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-full 04 March 2012
Machine: Mobo: Intel model: D2700MUD version: AAG32419-504
Bios: Intel version: MUCDT10N.86A.0067.2011.1227.1232 date: 12/27/2011
CPU: Dual core Intel Atom CPU D2700 (-HT-MCP-) clocked at 2128.242 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
X.Org: 1.11.4 drivers: vesa (unloaded: fbdev,intel) Resolution: 1280x1024@0.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A
Network: Card: Intel 82574L Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e ver: 1.5.1-k port: 1000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
Drives: HDD Total Size: 13.6GB (-)
Info: Processes: 90 Uptime: 1:17 Memory: 190.5/2014.8MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.6.3 alt: 4.4 Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.36
Please relocate this if appropriate...I didn't see a catagory for M12 to put it in. Sorry if it is a breach in ettiquette.

Moved Post to New users. I don't know how to move to subforum viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3674
Sorry If I made a mess of things. Rok
This is now over at new-users-f16.html
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,956
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Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#2
Firstly, if you have dist-upgraded then you will need the latest antiX kernel as well. (3.3.3 in the repos, the kernel is not automatically upgraded).
Secondly, the snapshot app only works at the moment with an antiX kernel. The original version from refracta might work with a Debian kernel on antiX, I haven't tried it yet.
Posts: 279
afab4
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
#3
wh7qq wrote:a real torture test for the N2700: ran at 100% on all four threads.....
Runs 100% on my laptop also and uses about 450MB of ram (Intel Core2 Duo CPU P9400). I have made at least a dozen of these snapshots successfully and now set my laptop on a large icepack while processing. I was seeing temperatures over 210 F before __{{emoticon}}__ and now it runs about 180 F while building the iso.
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,956
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Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#4
I'll ask the guys at refracta if they are experiencing the same problem.
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rust collector
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
#5
Ok, here I am again, asking about stuff that might be obvious to some.

I get that using all the power it can, will make things hot...
But I would think that using 100% of the"brain" will give you"something" faster?
If I buy a car with 800hp, I would want to be able to use all 800 hp.

800horses in my car would probably make it overheat, if I kept my foot in it too long... Is that a good analogy?
Is it really a cooling issue, or is it just that cpu's don't want to run at 100%??

Just curious...
Posts: 15
lavsan
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
#6
"Is that a good analogy?" NOPE
It will be like you'll trying to attach 12 diff cars to your 800 hp engine. Any modern system check in background if your screen was write correctly, if the soundcard work well, if you connect anything to USB (on a desktop I have 10 of them, only half used), if the files are write ok on hdd, etc, all done transparent for you.
Also if you have other processing hungry programs opened... you do the math.
An max. of 67-75 % will be acceptable for me so I will wait for a better version and check with Anti's opinion.

Edit: I think you get a somewhat clear idea why"the things get hot"...
anticapitalista
Posts: 5,956
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Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#7
Could people test using nice when using the antixsnapshot app to see if it improves CPU usage.

As root run the script as

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nice -n 19 /usr/local/bin/antixsnapshot or nice -n 19 /usr/local/bin/antixsnapshot-gui
Posts: 279
afab4
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
#8
anticapitalista wrote:Could people test using nice when using the antixsnapshot app to see if it improves CPU usage.

As root run the script as

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nice -n 19 /usr/local/bin/antixsnapshot or nice -n 19 /usr/local/bin/antixsnapshot-gui
I made a 1.6GB snapshot in 25 minutes.
CPU pegged at 100% and 423MB ram used.
I could see no difference with the nice script and had to go fetch my icepack when the temperature hit 204 F.