3.14 kernels testers

anticapitalista · posted: 2014-05-20 09:28

Could people with either PII or PIII boxes running antiX-13 with default Wheezy repos or running default MX-14 with Wheezy repos, please try installing the 3.14-0-486 kernel from Debian backports.

MX-14 users have debeian backports already enabled, for antiX add this line to the denian,list file in etc/apt/sources.list.d

# Wheezy backports
deb
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
linktext was:"http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"
====================================
wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

If it doesn't boot, you can always revert to the working kernel.

Silent Observer · posted: 2014-05-24 13:30

Anti, I'm not sure if it'll help you with wheezy, since I'm running on testing, but I'll certainly look for that kernel and give it a try on my PII laptop. If I'd seen this before I started the wheezy to testing update (half an hour ago) I could have tried it before updating the fresh antiX 13.2 reinstall.

rokytnji · posted: 2014-05-24 13:56

Made a stab at it Anti but I don't feel like breaking this Dave testers laptop this weekend.

Currently running

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$ uname -r
3.14.3-dreamlinux-liquorix

Edit: I don't have any held packages that I know of. At least manually made by me.

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: / etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
           deb http://antix.daveserver.info/stable stable main
           Active apt sources in file: / etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt sources in file: / etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
           deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all

I commented out backports in sources list after that screenshot. It is still there if I need it.
That is why it did not show up in inxi -r report in case you are wondering.

Silent Observer · posted: 2014-05-24 22:26

Okay, I'm running testing, as mentioned above (I suppose that could affect compatibility with a legacy-features kernel), but that 3.14.0 kernel (the one roky has highlighted in his scrren shot above) came the closest I've seen to booting on my PII laptop since the 3.13.1 I tried last week (which worked fine). I got a complete, normal-looking boot to the cli login -- followed by messages that wlan0 wasn't ready, and some additional messages culminating with a report (from IPv6) that"wlan0 becomes ready" -- but after that, and no further activity, running startx resulted in an x server failure and a return to the cli. IOW, that kernel seemingly runs on a PII, but there are issues with running X on that combination, at least with testing repos.

SamK · posted: 2014-05-25 07:23

anticapitalista wrote:Could people with either PII or PIII boxes running antiX-13 with default Wheezy repos or running default MX-14 with Wheezy repos, please try installing the 3.14-0-486 kernel from Debian backports.

inxi -b -c0 -r

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System:    Host: antiX1 Kernel: 3.11.5-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit) Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7
           Distro: antiX-13.2_386-full Luddite 4 November 2013
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P2B v: REV 1.xx Bios: Award v: ASUS P2B 1002 date: 04/02/98
CPU:       Single core Pentium II (Deschutes) (-UP-) clocked at 334 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Matrox Systems MGA G100 [Productiva] AGP
           Display Server: X.Org 1.12.4 drivers: mga (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x768@75.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ driver: 8139too
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 20.4GB (13.6% used)
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: / etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
           deb http://antix.daveserver.info/stable stable main
           Active apt sources in file: / etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
           deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
Info:      Processes: 72 Uptime: 20 min Memory: 69.8/500.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.1.28

Kernel fails to install from backport repo

apt-get install --simulate linux-headers-3.14-0.bpo.1-486 linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-486

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-486 : Breaks: initramfs-tools (< 0.110~) but 0.109.1 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

anticapitalista · posted: 2014-05-25 10:53

SamK what if you try

apt-get install -s -t wheezy-backports linux-headers-3.14-0.bpo.1-486 linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-486

It is ok here as it brings in a newer initramfs-tools

SamK · posted: 2014-05-25 14:20

anticapitalista wrote:SamK what if you try...

Successfully installed and booted 3.14-0.bpo.1-486

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Installation command
apt-get install --target-release wheezy-backports linux-headers-3.14-0.bpo.1-486 linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-486
Cold boot quiescent RAM usage
echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ; free -h
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          500M        80M       420M         0B       1.0M        23M
-/+ buffers/cache:        56M       444M
Swap:           0B         0B         0B
Bootloader commands
NOTES 
1. quiet and vga=791 appended manually
2. vga=791 is highest resolution that can be set, anything higher fails

title        Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 3.14-0.bpo.1-486
root         (hd0,0)
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-3.14-0.bpo.1-486 root=UUID=1b2f2196-975e-4220-ba82-7e36fbcfca42 ro quiet vga=788
initrd      /boot/initrd.img-3.14-0.bpo.1-486

title        Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 3.14-0.bpo.1-486 (init-3)
root         (hd0,0)
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-3.14-0.bpo.1-486 root=UUID=1b2f2196-975e-4220-ba82-7e36fbcfca42 ro 3 quiet vga=788
initrd      /boot/initrd.img-3.14-0.bpo.1-486
System report
inix -b -c0
System:    Host: antiX1 Kernel: 3.14-0.bpo.1-486 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7
           Distro: antiX-13.2_386-full Luddite 4 November 2013
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P2B v: REV 1.xx serial: MB-1234567890
           Bios: Award v: ASUS P2B 1002 date: 04/02/98
CPU:       Single core Pentium II (Deschutes) (-UP-) clocked at 334 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Matrox Systems MGA G100 [Productiva] AGP
           Display Server: X.org 1.12.4 drivers: mga (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 112x38 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ driver: 8139too
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 20.4GB (14.8% used)
Info:      Processes: 81 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 68.6/501.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.1.28
Networking 
Wired OK
Wireless OK (external USB NIC)
Audio OK

Silent Observer · posted: 2014-06-07 17:46

Okay, revisited the 3.14-0.bpo.1-486 kernel on my Pentium II laptop. As noted before, this boots to command line, but the GUI fails on startup, both automatically before login, and when manually invoked after logging in at the command line. I've grabbed a copy of the Xorg.0.log; I'll paste in the tail that shows the failure; I don't see anything going wrong before the last couple dozen lines (assuming I'd spot anything the least bit subtle, however, would be a bad move).

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[   184.225] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device"ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device" (type: KEYBOARD, id 10)
[   184.226] (**) Option"xkb_rules""evdev"
[   184.226] (**) Option"xkb_model""pc105"
[   184.226] (**) Option"xkb_layout""us,us"
[   184.226] (**) Option"xkb_options""grp:alt_shift_toggle,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,grp_led:scroll"
[   184.282] (EE) 
[   184.282] (EE) Backtrace:
[   184.284] (EE) 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x4f) [0xb76cdc0f]
[   184.285] (EE) 1: /usr/bin/X (0xb7526000+0x1ab9e4) [0xb76d19e4]
[   184.286] (EE) 2: /usr/bin/X (0xb7526000+0x1b8606) [0xb76de606]
[   184.286] (EE) 3: linux-gate.so.1 (__kernel_rt_sigreturn+0x0) [0xb7504410]
[   184.287] (EE) 4: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (memcpy+0x27) [0xb71486b7]
[   184.287] (EE) 5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/neomagic_drv.so (0xb74f3000+0x835c) [0xb74fb35c]
[   184.287] (EE) 6: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/neomagic_drv.so (0xb74f3000+0x8264) [0xb74fb264]
[   184.288] (EE) 7: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libshadow.so (0xb6c97000+0x15e2) [0xb6c985e2]
[   184.289] (EE) 8: /usr/bin/X (BlockHandler+0xc8) [0xb7567678]
[   184.290] (EE) 9: /usr/bin/X (WaitForSomething+0x100) [0xb76caf40]
[   184.290] (EE) 10: /usr/bin/X (0xb7526000+0x3c88e) [0xb756288e]
[   184.291] (EE) 11: /usr/bin/X (0xb7526000+0x40c25) [0xb7566c25]
[   184.292] (EE) 12: /usr/bin/X (0xb7526000+0x2a93e) [0xb755093e]
[   184.293] (EE) 13: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf3) [0xb70e5723]
[   184.293] (EE) 14: /usr/bin/X (0xb7526000+0x2a974) [0xb7550974]
[   184.294] (EE) 
[   184.294] (EE) Bus error at address 0xb6650000
[   184.294] (EE) 
Fatal server error:
[   184.295] (EE) Caught signal 7 (Bus error). Server aborting
[   184.295] (EE) 
[   184.295] (EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
     at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[   184.295] (EE) Please also check the log file at"/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[   184.296] (EE) 
[   184.728] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

rokytnji · posted: 2014-06-08 01:00

@S.O.

On failed slim boots I enter into init 3 boot and use startx to see what is going on to troubleshoot
non graphic logins.

Silent Observer · posted: 2014-06-09 00:10

I did that -- I can log in successfully at the command line, but startx results in a black/blank graphics screen followed by a return to the cli and a near-identical log result.

Silent Observer · posted: 2014-06-25 22:15

Well, that's an interesting development. I got an update to the 3.14-0.bpo.1-486 kernel from wheezy-backports the other day, and found it boots perfectly on my PII laptop -- works just as well as the 3.13-0.bpo.1-486 did. It's been up for close to three days now, running streamtuner2/xmms continuously, and running IceWeasel right now with those in the background. The installed version shows as 3.14.7~bpo70+1. Looks like a good candidate to base a future antiX kernel to keep compatibility with the Pentium II generation...